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Veazie Planning Board 02/04/2002
Town of Veazie Planning Board
Minutes of February 4, 2002 Meeting



Chris Cronan called the meeting to order @ 7:00 p.m.

Present: Board Members: Chris Cronan (Chairman), John Manter arrived @ 7:50 p.m., Suzanne Malis-Anderson, Harold Pinkham, Terry Studley, Steve Shaler
Town Officials: Allan Thomas (CEO), Robb Freeman (Comp. Plan), Beckie-Jo Woods (Deputy Clerk),
Applicant Representatives: Barb & William Dalton (applicants), Don Becker (CES), Jim Parker (CES)
Members of the Public: Esther Bushway, Joyce Leveille, Ray Lynch Sr., Janice King, Ron King, Earlene Leveille, Debbie Otis

Consideration of Minutes:

-Chris stated that on page 2 of the minutes, it stated that the plan could continue with the open space as it is. He would like that changed to reflect that the right of way is not considered part of the open space.
-Terry moved to accept the January 10, 2002 minutes as corrected
-Harold seconded the motion. All members were in favor.

Item 1: Finalize Completion Review: Barb Dalton’s Subdivision:

-Barb Dalton mentioned that she would not be using Woodland Drive for the road name. The alternative name is Black Bear Drive.
-Allan will check into the abutting towns and Barney Silver’s subdivision to see if there is a conflict with the name Black Bear Drive.
-Don Becker provided the Board with a copy of the proposed cul-de-sac.
-Chris Cronan inquired as to when the Town will take over the maintenance of the cul-de-sac.
-Barb stated that she would take care of the flowers for as long as she lives in Veazie. She also stated that Surry Gardens would be doing the initial work and she will have them look over the plans for the cul-de-sac.

-Chris Cronan read through the remaining sections of the site plan review checklist. The following sections remain pending or incomplete:

15.05.08.02: Fees: Part of the fees have been submitted: Pending
15.05.08.11: Street, Sidewalks and Access: Black Bear Drive: Pending Allan’s review
15.05.08.15: Stormwater, Sanitary Waste, Potable Water: Incomplete




15.05.08.17: Reserved Areas: Incomplete
15.05.08.22: Landscaping, Buffering and Screening: Pending
15.05.08.31: Erosion and Sedimentation: Complete pending Town Engineer’s report
15.05.08.34: Public Water Supply: Pending
15.05.08.35: Public Sewer: Pending
15.05.08.36: Stormwater Disposal: Pending
15.05.08.37: Fire Protection: Pending
15.05.08.39: Police Protection: Pending
15.05.08.40: Educational Services: Pending
15.05.08.42: Photographs: Don Becker has the photographs for the next meeting: Pending until next meeting.
15.05.08.46: Performance Guarantees: Condition of approval: Pending
15.05.08.47: Legal documents: Pending
15.05.08.48: Technical and Financial Capacity-Engineer and other professionals: Pending

-Don Becker stated that some of the lights are shown on the plan profile. Also, the silt fences will be located on the low side of the drainage easement and are shown on the plan profile and on the new version of the site plan.

-Chris proposed opening the Public Hearing for comments. The Board reserved their comments for the next meeting when the completion review is complete.

-Chris stated that John Manter submitted a letter stating that due to a family member owning property within five hundred feet of the proposed subdivision, he will be abstaining from any decision-making role and standing down from the Board during that part of the public meeting to avoid any appearance of conflict of interest.

Item 2: Public Hearing – Dalton’s Subdivision:

Chris opened public hearing @7:35 p.m.

The board read through questions and comments submitted by Ray Lynch Sr. The questions and comments are as follows:

1. Where will the excess snow from the new road be deposited and what is the proposed with of the new road?
-Don Becker stated that where the snow will be deposited is up to the snowplow driver.
2. Where will the utilities be hooked up?
-Don stated that the electricity, water, cable and gas will come from Arbor Drive and the sewer will go from the subdivision to the railroad.





3. How were the lots surveyed?
-Jim Parker mentioned that the surveyors would obtain property deeds, historic evidence, and other significant documentation.
4. Ray stated that after snowfall, Arbor Drive is only 18 to 19 feet wide in some areas. He asked if the new road would be wider to eliminate emergency vehicles having trouble with the narrow road.
-The Board stated that most roads in Veazie are the same width and the emergency vehicles have not reported any problems.

-The Board read through Manager William Reed’s comments. Manager Reed was not in attendance at the meeting to discuss his comments.

-Esther Bushway stated that she is in full support of the Dalton’s subdivision. She has been concerned with the land behind her house for a long time and she is very happy with the proposal to sell buffer strips to the landowners.

-Ray Lynch Sr. stated that there is 100% support for the subdivision including from him.

-Chris Cronan moved continued the public hearing to the March 4th meeting.
-Terry Studley seconded the motion. – All in favor.


Item 3: Completion Review of the Comprehensive Plan:

-John Manter took his seat on the Board at that time.

-Chris stated that everyone should have a finalized copy of the comprehensive plan.

-Robb stated that he has incorporated all of the changes that were suggested.

-John Manter stated that he looked through it and everything seems to be in order.

-Steve Shaler mentioned that he would like footnotes on each page with the revision dates.

-Robb stated that he would print the final copy with footnotes.

-Chris moved that the Board recommend that the council approve & adopt the 2002 copy of the Comp. Plan.

-John Manter seconded the motion – All in favor.

-Chris stated that the board would take 30 minutes to discuss the open space issue.




-Terry stated that the board should have an inventory of open space that the Town currently owns. He also mentioned that the Town should consider what they would like to see for open space.

-John Manter stated that there are two types of reserved areas, such as swamps, ledges, and wetlands that are protected naturally, and the land that can be protected by using it as open space.

-Chris would like the unbuildable areas and scenic areas mapped out.

-Harold Pinkham stated that there should be some discussion on the conservation corridor also. He also stated that there would need to be a policy in place for the conservation corridor.

-Allan stated that the trails need to be maintained and kept up so the Town does not loose use of them.

-John Manter mentioned talking with the Town of Orono and City of Bangor about the undeveloped land on the buffer of both Towns. Also, the trails that Orono has may be able to be linked to trails with Veazie and maybe into Bangor. He stated that he board should start talking with Bangor about the Stillwater Avenue side of Veazie. He felt that there might be pressure from the Bangor Mall to develop in that area.

-Suzanne Malis-Anderson stated that a friend of hers just started a land trust in the City of Bangor, and she could go to some of the meetings and talk with her about what Veazie is looking for.

-Chris stated that he would like to see money saved up for possibly buying development rights for the Town.

-Steve Shaler mentioned looking into grants that may be available for buying development rights.

-Terry Studley mentioned owners donating land to the Town for the use of a memorial etc.

-Chris Cronan moved to adjourn the meeting @ 8:40 p.m.
All members were in favor.

Respectfully Submitted By:


Beckie-Jo Woods
Deputy Clerk