NOTTINGHAM PLANNING BOARD
December 3 2008
PUBLIC SESSION
APPROVED & AMMENDED
Type of Meeting: Scheduled
Method of Notification: Posted at the Nottingham Municipal Building & Nottingham Post Office
Meeting Location: Nottingham Municipal Building
Members Present: Robert “Buzz” Davies: Alternate Member, Mr. Peter Gylfphe; Vice Chair, Mr. Scott Canney, Mr. Dave Smith; Chair,
Members Absent: Mr. Bill Netishen; Selectmen’s Representative, Ms. Traci Chauvey; Alternate Member, Bob Davidson, Ms. Sue Mooney, Ms. Cheryl Smith; Alternate Member
Others Present: Mrs. Lisa Sears; Land Use Clerk
Chair Smith called the meeting to order at approximately 7:11 pm.
Mr. Davies was seated for the vacant seat
Review of Previous Minutes
September 3, 2008
Line 55, 77 Change Canny to Canney
MOTION by Mr. Gylfphe to approve the minutes of September 3, 2008 as amended.
SECOND by Mr. Davies
VOTE 3-Aye. 0- Opposed 1- Abstained MOTION PASSED
November 5, 2008
MOTION by Mr. Canney to approve the minutes of November 5, 2008 as written.
SECOND by Mr. Gylfphe
VOTE 4-Aye. 0- Opposed 0- Abstained MOTION PASSED
November 19, 2008
Line 183 Change maximum to minimum and insert in the conservation area after everyone
MOTION by Mr. Canney to approve the minutes of November 19, 2008 as amended.
SECOND by Mr. Gylfphe
VOTE 4-Aye. 0- Opposed 0- Abstained MOTION PASSED
The Board signed the Lot Line Adjustment mylar/plans for Case PB08-04-LLA. While members were reviewing and signing the plans, Mr. Gylfphe gave the Board a brief update on the Pawtuckaway Lakes Advisory Board’s actions.
Conservation Overlay District (COD) - Open Space
During the discussion of the Nov. 19th minutes the Board again discussed Mr. Davies’ idea of keeping the density so that the developer would get the same number of lots for both a Conservation Subdivision and the Standard Subdivision but the incentive to pick the Conservation Subdivision over the standard one would be the reduced costs of infrastructure. Mrs. Sears mentioned that a local surveyor had commented to her that developers would always pick the subdivision that would allow for the most lots. Mr. Canney and Mr. Davies agreed.
Mr. Davies stated that he believed that Ms. Copeland was going to send them information on a Conservation District/Zone. Mrs. Sears will follow up with her to see if she has anything along those lines for the Board to review. Mr. Davies noted that the Overlay District did not have defined boundaries but a Conservation District/Zone would.
Later the Board reviewed their homework, but did not give any definite answers to these questions posed by Ms. Copeland at the last workshop.
· Are you willing to give up the 2 acres zoning? If they are not then they should not even consider working on the Open Space or COD; as the details will not work out?
· Would the Board consider allowing septic and wells on common areas?
· Would the Board allow for Community septic and wells?
Mrs. Sears noted there was only one workshop meeting left before the public hearings in January. She reviewed the Board’s schedule and upcoming case load. The discussion was on all the items the Board needs to complete, and has worked on, and where things were left. It was noted that the subdivision regulations were stopped to work on the COD, and then the COD/Open Space was stopped. The Board then had to finish and meet the deadlines for the 2009 Zoning Ordinance which has been completed.
The Board noted that they will continue to work on the COD/Open Space in the future but would also like to consider some kind of Conservation Zone instead. The Board noted that they may return to this effort after they finish the Review Subdivision Regulations. The Subdivision Regulations are about one third to one half completed, having been worked on a lot in 2007 & 2008 before the COD came up.
The Board briefly discussed the history of Cluster Developments in Nottingham. They also touched on the detail of the proposed COD that “leaves too much room for prejudice on the part of the Board” if they have to negotiate on every lot to determine what percentage of the lot falls in the COD which is then use to determine the number of lots a developer can get. They then discussed using the “imperfect” tax map as a way to define a Conservation District or Zone. Mr. Davies added that then you give everybody the choice which kind of subdivision they want, Conservation or Standard.
Chair Smith noted he would rather see a town-wide open space ordinance. They discussed the need for a reason or incentive for a developer to choose the Conservation/Open Space Subdivision vs. the Standard Subdivision. Chair Smith noted there would have to be build out calculations done. Discussion continued on lot sizes and market conditions, calculations. The Board will consider reviewing the old cluster development and how it had been done in Nottingham.
The Board discussed that they will start working on improving the applications and processes for right now and to finish working on the subdivision regulations.
They also discussed briefly the need for the Board to utilize the Site Plan Review process in the near future to businesses in the commercial district. They also noted the difficulty in enforcing decisions made by this Board.
When asked, about the direction the Board would like to take in regards to their homework, the COD and the Open Space, Chair Smith noted that he wasn’t sure if he liked the COD as written. Mr. Gylfphe noted that he would like to combine the old cluster ordinance with the strong features of the COD & Open Space. Mr. Canney noted that he favored the Open Space with Mr. Davies’ idea of a Conservation Zone. Mr. Gylfphe agreed. Chair Smith agreed to the District idea citing that they already have an aquifer district and that would be similar. The Board agreed to add this concept to the 2009 to-do list.
Mr. Canney suggested Mrs. Sears gather the applications and similar smaller issues that the Board could work on next week. She will also provide the Board with the revised 2009 to do list.
Chair Smith noted he would like to go back to the Subdivision Regulation Review. Mr. Gylfphe noted that Subdivision Regulation Application is too difficult to understand and should also be revised, as well. The Board decided to go back to this review in about mid January once the application review is done.
The Board agreed to read the subdivision regulations and the old cluster development for a future workshop. Mrs. Sears will provide members with copies of the old cluster development ordinance. Chair Smith noted when that was removed about six years ago the Board’s intent was to revise it.
MOTION by Mr. Gylfphe to adjourn at 8:25pm.
SECOND by Mr. Davies
VOTE 4-Aye. 0- Opposed 0- Abstained MOTION PASSED
Respectfully Submitted,
Lisa L. Sears
Land Use Clerk
These minutes are subject to approval at a regularly scheduled Planning Board meeting at which time the above minutes are corrected or accepted.
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