Planning and Zoning Commission
40 Old Farms Road ~~~Willington, CT ~06279
December 4, 2007- 7:30 P.M.
Meeting Minutes
Members Present:
Matthew Ellis-Chairman
Phil Nevers
Thomas Murphy
Peter Latincsics- arrived at 7:35
John Sullivan- arrived at 7:32
Ed Standish
James Poole-alternate
Members Absent:
Andy Marco
M. Ellis called the PZC meeting to order at 7:30 PM.
J. Poole was seated for A. Marco.
New Business:
Renewal of Sand and Gravel Permits:
Lawrence Becker 171 Tolland Tpk (Map 23 Lot 3)
180 Tolland Tpk (23/18/Lot62/19)
9 George Dr (Map 30 Lot 1)
Mr. Becker submitted a request for an extension until 1/15/08.
Ruby Assoc General Partnership 328 Ruby Road (Map 42 Lot 48)
M. Ellis stated that the Beckers engineer’s request for an extension did not include Ruby Assoc. however, as Mr. Becker owns it he assumes that leaving it out of the request was an oversight by the engineer. He said that it is up to the commission if they want to pull the bond or give them an extension. The commission said that they would grant Ruby Assoc. an extension until 1/15/08.
Lisa H Kenderdine Ruby Road (Map 42 Lot 49A)
Trask Road (Map 29 Lot 4)
Russ Kenderdine was present; he explained that they have a potential buyer for Ruby Rd that wants to put up a large building for tractor-trailers to use for storage and maintenance. He said that he would like to clean up the area and flatten the land to allow that to happen. He stated that he is currently working with the Town as their site is next to his and it would require doing some clean up work together. Mr. Kenderdine asked for an extension to complete his site plan. The commission granted an extension until 1/15/08.
Mr. Kenderdine said that he has been told that Trask Road has been loomed and seeded. He said that he has not had time to walk the site to see if everything matches the as-built and would like a chance to do that so he can report to the commission. The commission gave Mr. Kenderdine and extension to 1/15/08.
Margaret M Harrison River Road (Map 10 Lot 4D)
The commission said that the area is no longer a gravel pit and no longer requires a permit.
Wayne Williams 66 Navratil Road (Map 14 Lot 16)
Mr. Williams handed out plans to the commission members; he explained that he had a boundary survey done, explained existing and proposed site work, as well as a proposal for potential reuse. Mr. Williams said that he truly does not know what he will do with the property in the future. He said he or another family member might choose to build a house, which is what he showed on his plans. He explained that this property has been in his family for years and does not want to loose his right to the Sand and Gravel permit so he is complying with the town’s regulations so he can maintain that right.
M. Ellis said that the town staff would review the plans and get back to him if anything else is needed.
Mr. Williams asked if these regulations could be waived. M. Ellis explained that from a planning standpoint the PZC needs to know what is going to happen to these areas in the future.
DeSiato Sand &Gravel River Road (Map 25 Lot 2)
Mr. DeSiato showed the commission members an aerial photo of his sand and gravel pit. He said that he only uses it for a few weeks in the summer as he is in the process of reclaiming the land. He explained that he is using one area for cornfields and is in the process of taking out the remaining gravel, which is only about six feet deep. Mr. DeSiato said that top soil is onsite to replace the gravel once it is removed. He stated that he is in the process of reseeding areas and letting natural tress, shrubs and vegetation grow back.
M. Ellis asked Mr. DeSiato if he is having an engineer work on a site plan. Mr. DeSiato said that he is, but his engineer’s wife has been hospitalized for several weeks and has asked for an extension. M. Ellis said that he can have until 1/15/08 and if he still needs more time he can come back and ask for another extension.
Mr. DeSiato explained to the commission what his plans for the site would be. He said that he came to the town for a permit in 1983 to put in a reload for lumber and was denied so he has not let anyone else purchase the property. He said that he would like to leave it open space or for farming.
Town of Willington Ruby Road (Map 42 Lot 49)
Karl Acimovic said that the town just completed their fieldwork and would like to request an extension to finish the site plan. He explained that all the surveying has been completed at this time.
The commission granted the Town of Willington an extension until 1/15/08.
File PZC 2007-45 Amendment of Plan of Conservation & Development- Addition of the Conservation Commissions Natural Resource Inventory and Open Space Plan (P. H. Jan 15, 2008)
Public hearing set for 1/15/08
Old Business
Review of revised Draft Subdivision Regulations dated 12/04/07
M. Ellis told the commission that they need to meet to go over the new regulations so all changes can be in place for the public meeting preferably by February.
P. Nevers suggested 12/18/07 at 7:00 PM. Most members agreed to the date and time. M. Ellis asked everyone to familiarize themselves with the new draft and asked staff to put out a notice for the meeting.
J. Poole said that he does not think that the new subdivision regulations will be ready by February. M. Ellis said that it is just a goal.
Kucko Road
Karl Acimovic, Lynn Nichols, Mike Eldredge, and Mark Palmer were present to discuss the road improvements to Kucko Road. The commission explained that they felt the town needed to come to them under § 8-24. Mr. Acimovic said that the board of selectmen did not agree that this work fell under § 8-24 because they were addressing an immediate safety concern that was produced due to Wilderness Way and the widening of the road. He explained that right where the two sections of roads meet there is a hump in the road that does not allow cars to see one another coming from opposite directions. He stated that they are trying to prevent an accident.
M. Ellis said that from a planning standpoint the commission needs to look at what else should be done to the road to make it better, such as widening the entire road.
J. Poole asked if there would be a change of water flow if the hill were removed. He asked Mr. Acimovic if a hydrology study has been done.
Mr. Acimovic said that there would not be a problem with water flow. He said that a new catch basin has been put in at the Kucko’s driveway. J. Poole said that he would still like to see a hydrology study done including what will happen in a 100-year storm.
E. Standish asked how much of the road is being cut off. Mr. Acimovic said about two feet.
Ralph Tulis said that he went out to the road and looked at the profile, which seems to start at the new catch basin. Mr. Tulis said that there is an area next to the bump in the road that often floods. Mr. Acimovic said that water has been redirected to the new catch basin. Mr. Tulis asked if any curbing will be done and what that will do to the water flow. He stated that he is concerned with all the water going to the new catch basin and the town not keeping up with the maintenance of cleaning them out. Mr. Acimovic said that the water may puddle but will not flood the road. He stated that he would put together a report for the commission.
M. Ellis stated that he thinks they are just putting a band-aid on a larger problem. Mr. Acimovic said that they are trying to fix an immediate safety hazard as well as stay within the town budget. M. Ellis asked Mr. Acimovic if he would be prepared to make a presentation at the special meeting on 12/18/07. Mr. Acimovic said that he would. First Selectmen Eldredge asked the commission if they would be able to make a decision that night. Staff said that they would need to review the material first, so Mr. Acimovic would need to get the paperwork into them before the meeting.
Election of Officers
M. Ellis called for nominations for the chair position.
T. Murphy made a motion to nominate M. Ellis for chair. J. Poole seconded the motion.
T. Murphy, J. Poole, P. Nevers, E. Standish, J. Sullivan, P. Latincsics- in favor
M. Ellis- opposed (in jest)
M. Ellis elected as PZC chairperson
M. Ellis called for nominations for vice chair
M. Ellis made a motion to nominate A. Marco, P. Nevers seconded the motion.
All voted in favor
A. Marco elected as PZC vice chairperson
M. Ellis called for nominations for secretary
M. Ellis made a motion to nominate P. Nevers for secretary, T. Murphy seconded the motion.
All voted in favor
P. Nevers elected as PZC secretary
Minutes
M. Ellis made a motion to approve the minutes from 10/2/07, P. Latincsics seconded the motion.
M. Ellis made a motion to approve the minutes from 11/20/07, E. Standish seconded the motion. All voted in favor.
Correspondence
1. CME Associates Inc. request for a 90-day extension to file the mylars for CE Road LLC Subdivision.
M. Ellis made a motion to approve a 90 day extension for CE Road LLC. P. Nevers seconded the motion. All voted in favor.
2. Memo from Tarbell Heintz Re: Gravel Permit Renewals
-Trask Road
- Ruby Road
-Navratil Road
3. Letter from Gardner & Peterson Re: request for an extension for Becker Construction Gravel Pit.
Staff Report and Discussion
J. Poole asked if there was any documentation received from Mr. Acimovic regarding Wilderness View. He reminded the commission that a report is required week. G. Jones said that he has not received anything. J. Poole asked staff to reminded Mr. Acimovic that a report is due.
P. Nevers made a motion to adjourn at 8:25 PM, M. Ellis seconded the motion.
Respectfully Submitted,
Melissa McDonough
Recording Clerk
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