Planning Commission
Meeting Minutes 3-7-07
Pasbeshauke Pavilion at Saybrook Point Park
155 College Street Extension
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman, R. McIntyre, called the regular meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Attendant Members Absent Members
Robert McIntyre, Chairman Salvatore Aresco,Regular Member
Judith Gallicchio, Vice Chairman James Conroy, Alternate Member Janis Esty, Regular Member William Voigt, AlternateMember Richard D. Tietjen, Regular Member
Attendant Staff
Christine Nelson, Town Planner
Kathy Noyes, Recording Clerk
III. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. Minutes
MOTION to approve the minutes of Special Meeting Saturday, February 10, 2007 at the property of Neely W. Side of Ingham Hill Road, 400’ ft. N. of Old Rock Road. MADE by J. Gallicchio as presented SECONDED by J. Esty VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: R. Tietjen APPROVED: 3-0-1.
MOTION to approve the minutes of February 21, 2007 as amended. On page 5, change paragraph number 5 to read, “R. McIntyre requested that the applicant add an easement from the Berglund property to Bethel Heights suitable for further development of an alternative driveway access.”(keeping the last sentence of that paragraph), “Attorney C. Burnham spoke re: the town’s ordinance driveway permit to go into a town road.” Also, on page 5, change the last sentence to, “R. Doane responded that the slope at the intersection is 3.64% and the town requirement is a maximum of 4%.” MADE
By J. Gallicchio. SECONDED by J. Esty VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, R. Tietjen OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none APPROVED: 4-0-0.
B. Correspondence
Members’ packets contain Town of Old Saybrook budget, a State of CT Dept.of Economic and Community Development report re: Affordable Housing Land Use Appeals List, Zoning Commission Agenda, a bill from Branse, Willis & Knapp, LLC and a memo from the Zoning Commission re: the Application for Modification to Special Exception Permit #04-009 re: Sal’s Pizza.
MOTION to pay the bill from Branse, Willis & Knapp, LLC #14768 for $101.50 dated 3-1-07 for general counsel and representation MADE by B.McIntyre SECONDED by J. Gallicchio VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, R. Tietjen OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 4-0-0.
C. Committee, Representative & Staff Reports
B. McIntyre was unable to attend last month’s Wetlands Commission meeting and thus had nothing to report.
C. Nelson reported on meetings scheduled for March 24, 2007 and April 10, 2007 re: the town center portion of Boston Post Road. It will be a meeting with property owners and merchants to discuss issues such as parking and curb cut.
C. Nelson is working with the Architectural Review Board re: lighting regulations.
C. Nelson reported that a request for North Cove dredging has been made through Senator Joe Lieberman’s office.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
None
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. “Neely” Resubdivision of Land (14.62 ac. Total) – 9 Lots & Open Space
(1.27 ac) W. side of Ingham Hill Road; 400’ ft. N. of Old Rock Road
(Map 34/ Lots 5-1 & 5-4) Residence AA-1 District
Applicant: Jay Rankin Agent: Robert L. Doane,Jr.,P.E.
ACTION: Close public hearing by 2/21/07 (NLT 2/21/07) deliberate &act
No new reports from the engineer have been presented since the public hearing (2-21-07).
R. Tietjen raised his concerns about the hammerhead cul-de-sac, and why it could not be changed to a circular cul-de-sac. Also, in the interest of the environment and reducing pavement, he was concerned about the long driveway to Lot #6. A lengthy discussion ensued re: the hammerhead cul-de-sac and the long driveway to Lot #6.
J. Gallicchio noted that R. Doane explained during the public hearing on 2-21-07, that the problem is the topography of the area. There is a significant slope, and thus, a driveway cannot be connected directly to the cul-de-sac. According to the site development plan, page 2 of 2, submitted by R. Doane at the public hearing, there would be a 30+ foot drop between the finished floor elevation and the cul-de-sac which is too steep for a driveway.
J. Gallicchio referred to page 2 of C. Nelson’s report re: thermometer vs. hammerhead cul-de-sacs. The hammerhead cul-de-sac uses less pavement, it is more efficient, there is less storm water and it takes up less space.
There was a consensus of the board that confirmation from the town engineer, Jeff Jacobsen, was needed to be sure that all requirements have been met by the applicant.
C. Nelson noted that our town attorney stated that the town does not have the authority to move a driveway.
J. Gallicchio suggested J. Jacobsen verify that the site lines are adequate for the proposed intersection.
Re: the issue of open space, there was a consensus of the board that they would like to request open space and a fee in lieu of open space. R. Doane had offered this at the public hearing.
MOTION to continue deliberation re: “Neely” Resubdivision of Land (14.62 ac. Total) – 9 Lots & Open Space (1.27 ac.) W. Side of Ingham Hill Road; 400’ ft. N. of Old Rock Road (Map 34 / Lots 5-1 & 5-4) Residence AA-1 District as requested by the applicant. Applicant: Jay Rankin, Agent: Robert L. Doane, Jr., P.E. at the next regularly scheduled meeting on March 21, 2007 MADE by J. Gallicchio. SECONDED by J.Esty VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, R. Tietjen OPPOSED: none ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 4-0-0.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. “Sal’s Pizza & Pasta” Special Exception Modification – 4,650 s.f. (1.59 ac.)
Spencer Plains Road (Map 25/Lot 24-1 & 24-2) Gateway Business B-4 District Applicant: Michael Fava Agent: Robert Mangino, Architect
ACTION: Consider per Plan; Report for 4/16/07 ZC p.h.
R. Mangino, Architect presented for the applicant.
R. Mangino presented a memo dated 3-5-07 re: the approval for the requested modifications. Because the septic system cannot be expanded to accommodate a second floor dining room, the second floor would be used for food preparation only. Also, he is requesting 11 additional parking spaces.
MOTION to send a favorable recommendation to the Zoning Commission for modifications for “Sal’s Pizza and Pasta” Special Exception Modification – 4,650 s.f. (1.59 ac.) Spencer Plains Road (Map 25/Lot 24-1 & 24-2) Gateway Business B-4 District, Applicant Michael Fava, Agent: Robert Mangino, Architect MADE by B. McIntyre. SECONDED by J. Gallicchio VOTED IN FAVOR: J. Gallicchio, J. Esty, R. McIntyre, R.Tietjen OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 4-0-0.
VII. WORKSHOP
None
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION to adjourn meeting at 8:52 p.m. until the next regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. at the Pasbeshauke Pavilion, Saybrook Point Park, 155 College Street Extension. MADE by J Esty. SECONDED by J. Gallicchio. VOTED IN FAVOR: J. Gallicchio, J. Esty, R. McIntyre, R.Tietjen OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 4-0-0.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kathleen Noyes
Recording Clerk
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