TOWN OF OLD SAYBROOK
Planning Commission
302 Main Street Old Saybrook, Connecticut 06475-1741
Telephone (860) 395-3131 FAX (860) 395-3125
MINUTES
Wednesday, November 15, 2006 at 7:30 p.m.
Pasbeshauke Pavilion at Saybrook Point Park
155 College Street Extension
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman, Robert McIntyre, called the regular meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Attendant Members Absent Members
Robert McIntyre, Chairman James Conroy, Alternate Member Judith Gallicchio, Vice Chairman William Voigt, Alternate Member
Richard Tietjen, Regular Member Salvatore Aresco, Regular Member Julius Castagno, Regular Member
Janis Esty, Alternate Member
Attendant Staff
Christine Nelson, Town Planner
Katie Beecher, Recording Clerk
III. REGULAR BUSINESS
Janis Esty is seated for Sal Aresco.
A. Minutes
MOTION to approve the minutes of November 2, 2006 as written. MADE by J. Gallicchio. SECONDED by J. Castagno. VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, R. Tietjen, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, J. Castagno OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0.
B. Correspondence
Minutes from the Historic District Commission meeting, Zoning Meeting & the IWWC Agenda presented. Also presented: CRERPA survey, Planning Commission Journal, APA Newsletter, Copy of the Kubera Case and a notice about a transportation conference.
C. Committee, Representative & Staff Reports
None.
D. Appointment of Representatives
None.
MOTION to move Max’s Place Resubdivision of Land to Public Hearings MADE by J. Gallicchio. SECONDED by J. Castagno. VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, R. Tietjen, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, J. Castagno OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. “Max’s Place” Resubdivision of Land – Center Road West
Petitioner: Ron Lyman Agent: David M. Royston, Esq.
Also present: Dave Ziaks, Peter Thomas of Big Y, Ron Lyman
This public hearing is continued from the last meeting. Added to the record:
Letters from residents: R & P Dolan, 100 Chalker Beach Rd
Terri Gelbstein, 30 Beach Road East
G & M Crute, 63 Chalker Beach Road with attached petition
J. Gallagher, Summerwood, with attached petition
Duncan & Andrew Downie, adjacent property owners
Key Map of the Resubdivision dated 5-31-05
Conservation & Easement Restriction
Submitted by R. Gometz, Intervener:
Copy of the 2004 CT Storm Water Quality Control Manual
Subdivision regs for the Town of OS, pg. 5-9
Summerwood/Chalker Beach Marsh Study, Dec. 4, 2000, pg. 2
Page 11, Public Health Code
Zoning regs, Regs 8-2 to 8-35a
Letter from R. Gometz to OSPC dated November 9, 2006 regarding Impervious Surfaces, Storm Water Management and related topics.
Mark Shipman, Esq. spoke on behalf of the Chalker Beach Association. He said that development of the property as smaller lots would be more favorable to the environment because of issues like storm water runoff and that he would like to see a new study and report other than the report issued from the Home Depot project.
George Crute, 63 Chalker Beach Rd spoke in favor of the project.
Roberta Smith, 103 Chalker Beach Rd spoke about traffic concerns, flooding and the residents of Chalker Beach who did not sign the petition in favor of the development.
M. Crute, 63 Chalker Beach Rd. spoke in favor of the project.
The public portion of the Public Hearing is closed.
Comments from Attorney Royston included responses to the speaker’s comments explaining how the requirements have been met by the developer. He also stated that the developer has attempted to make improvements in the Chalker Beach area but some of the residents will not give their permission. He said that if there are any conditions to this approval it should be to include Lot 6-16.
Dave Ziaks of Hesketh spoke for the applicant explaining how the requirements have been met. Regarding the approvals from the DEP and Army Corps of Engineers, Mr. Ziaks stated that those approvals were not to be applied for until after the Town has approved the project and that the 2004 Ct Storm Water Quality Control Manual is only made up of guidelines. The towns can adopt the ones they feel are appropriate.
R. Tietjen of the Planning Commission had questions about runoff and flooding, stating that it was difficult to predict future situations with any certainty.
J. Gallicchio questioned Town Engineer Geoff Jacobson about items on the Notice of Intervention.
J. Castagno questioned Dave Ziaks about mosquito infestation prevention in the basins. Mr. Ziaks responded that according to DEP studies, predators flock to the basins and eat the mosquitos so no treatment is necessary. R. Gometz commented that drainage of the detention ponds would be necessary.
J. Esty asked about how water would leave the detention ponds. Mr. Ziaks responded that it would be mostly metered out and that the ground water levels would eventually fall because of the devices being used by the applicant.
MOTION to close the Public Hearing for Max’s Place Resubdivision of Land & Coastal Site Plan – Center Road West MADE by J. Gallicchio. SECONDED by J. Castagno. VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, R. Tietjen, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, J. Castagno OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0.
MOTION to continue discussion and deliberations regarding Max’s Place Resubdivision until the next scheduled meeting on December 6, 2006. MADE by J. Gallicchio. SECONDED by J. Castagno. VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, R. Tietjen, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, J. Castagno OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Informal Review of Development Proposed by Merritt Lane Holdings, LLC Merritt Lane, (Map 52/Lot 3-1) Residence AA-1 District
Jason Ziegler, Owner David Royston, Esq., Agent
This proposed development will be on Ingham Hill Road. Atty. Royston submitted possible waivers regarding frontage. This will be a two lot development with conforming lots.
B. “Cypress Cemetery” Municipal Improvement (9.6ac)
College Street (Map 24/Lot 85)
Petitioner: Cypress Cemetery Association Agent: James Cahill, Chairman
Torrence Downs of the Cemetery Association presented a letter and a map of Cypress Cemetery detailing the placement of the new working building and the area of burial plot expansion.
MOTION to send a positive referral to the Board of Selectman regarding the Cypress Cemetery Municipal Improvement as it is consistent with the Plan of Conservation and Development items 1) Continue to promote the historical and cultural resources of the community and to build support for local historic preservation efforts and 2) Continue to assure that development activity involving historic sites incorporates design and landscaping features in keeping with the historic character of the site. MADE by J. Gallicchio. SECONDED by J. Castagno. VOTED IN FAVOR: R. McIntyre, R. Tietjen, J. Esty, J. Gallicchio, J. Castagno OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0.
VII. WORKSHOP
None
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION to adjourn meeting at 11:07 pm until the next regularly scheduled meeting on Wednesday, December 6, 2006 at 7:30 p.m. at the Pasbeshauke Pavilion, Saybrook Point Park, 155 College Street Extension. MADE by S. Aresco. SECONDED by J. Conroy VOTED IN FAVOR: J. Gallicchio, J. Conroy, S. Aresco, R. Tietjen, J. Castagno OPPOSED: none; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0.
Respectfully Submitted,
Katie Beecher
Recording Clerk
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