IWWC MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
THURSDAY, August 20, 2009 at 7:30 p.m.
Pasbeshauke Pavilion at Saybrook Point Park
155 College Street Extension
Chairman Paul Smith called the regular meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Five commission members were seated to vote.
II. ROLL CALL
Attendant Members
Paul Smith, Chairman
William Pollock, Secretary
Robert McIntyre
Chuck Wehrly
Kimberly Gallagher
Absent Members
Charles Sohl, Vice Chairman
Brendan McKeown.
Attendant Town Consultants
Geoffrey Jacobson, Engineer, Nathan L. Jacobson & Associates
Richard Snarski, Soil Scientist, New England Environmental Services
III. OLD BUSINESS
A. 09-009 Hope Partnership, Inc & The Town of Old Saybrook
Application for construction of a driveway turnaround; refuse/recycle dumpster area; water quality basin with berm & wood post guardrail and associated site grading for above activities all related to the new construction of a 14-unit residential development.
Ferry Road (Map 45/Lot 3)
Residence A District
Accepted: 7/16/2009
Action: Open Public Hearing
Attorney David Royston presented revised maps dated 8-19-09 and a photo of the sign placed on the property for the Public Hearing.
A letter dated 8-17-09 from Geoffrey Jacobson, Engineering Consultant for this Commission was presented to the Commission with the comment from the Secretary of the Commission that the heading "Re: Hope Partnership Affordable Housing", should read as, Re: Hope Partnership, Inc and the Town of Old Saybrook.
Chairman Smith asked Mr. Jacobson if he agreed to this change and the answer was,"Yes".
Attorney Royston introduced George Smilas, PE, who explained the revisions made to the plans. The plan changes incorporated the comments outlined in Mr. Jacobson’s letter of 8-19-09 and the comments from this Commission.
Chairman Smith asked the applicant if they were prepared to meet all the conditions in Mr. Jacobson’s letter of 8-19-09 and Mr. Smilas stated that they are ready to do so. Chairman Smith asked Mr. Jacobson and Mr. Snarski if they had any further comments or suggestions and they answered no there were none.
Ms. Gallagher asked about the location of fences and backstop on the western part of the property. Attorney Royston pointed out that the fences were located in such a way to keep balls and activity from the western located wetlands. Chairman Smith pointed out that the ball field(s) are general purpose and not specific to any one type of activity. Chairman Smith pointed out to the Commission that we are to consider both the fields on the west side and the residential housing to the east as one application.
Attorney Royston presented a suggested landscaping plan for the western side of the property. Mr. Snarski had not had a chance to review the landscaping plans prior to this so he was not prepared to comment in detail. Chairman Smith asked Mr. Snarski and Mr. Smilas to work together on this and they agreed to do so.
Chairman Smith asked about changes made in the NE part of the property in the area of the dumpsters and hammerhead. Mr. Smilas explained that some changes were made after talking with emergency services.
Chairman Smith asked about access to the State of Connecticut property to the north and Mr. Smilas stated this question is yet to be resolved with the State.
Commissioners Smith and Gallagher had a discussion with the applicant about the surface of the area in the NE and water quality and runoff into the basin in that area. Mr. Smilas indicated to the Commission that there were some questions still to be resolved with the engineer, Mr. Jacobson, regarding type of surface material, either grass or asphalt, and which would be best for this site. Chairman Smith suggested to the Commission that they leave this item to the experts to resolve.
The Chairman opened the Public Hearing for public comments.
Velma Thomas, 3rd Selectman for the Town stated she was there on behalf of the Board of Selectman to recommend a positive vote on the project.
Christopher Jensen of St. Paul’s Church and member of Board of Trustees for the Hope Partnership urged a positive vote on the project.
No further comments from the Public.
Chairman Smith opened Commission discussion with the thought that since time is short for other aspects of this project the Commission might want to
consider a vote tonight. He further commented on the fence and vegetation to the west stating the wetlands will be protected in this area. He also asked Attorney
Royston about the adjoining property owner Bowe and what will happen to the drive and lawn area the Bowe now uses. Will that be closed to their use if the project is approved? Attorney Royston said the Town and Bowes are in conversation and he expects a suitable answer to all parties will be happening soon.
Chairman Smith closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION to approve Application #09-009 for construction of a driveway turnaround; refuse/recycle dumpster area; water quality basin with berm & wood post guardrail and associated site grading for above activities all related to the new construction of a 14-unit residential development with the following conditions, 1. Decision on the surface material in the NE section of the property, either pavers or asphalt, to be left to the project engineers and Town consultants; 2.Landscaping throughout the property to be coordinated with the applicant and the Town Consultants. MADE by Robert McIntyre, SECONDED by Kimberly Gallagher; IN FAVOR: William Pollock, Kimberly Gallagher, Charles Wehrly; Paul Smith, Robert McIntyre OPPOSED: None; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0
B. 09-008 Nancy Engberg (Mike’s Quality Meats & Fine Deli)
Application to construct a 31-seat restaurant addition.
1522 Boston Post Road (Map 26/Lot 28)
Business B-4 District
Accepted: 7/16/2009
Action: Review and Act
Mr. Robert Doane, Engineer for the applicant submitted a map of the project with a revision date 8-17-09. Mr. Doane explained the changes in the plan as submitted. The dumpsters were relocated, a grassy area which will not be mowed will be used as a buffer along the stream on the south side of property and 2 parking spaces will be relocated. Commissioners had no further comments.
MOTION to approve Application #09-008 to construct a 31 seat restaurant addition. MADE by Robert McIntyre, SECONDED by Charles Wehrly; IN FAVOR: William Pollock, Charles Wehrly; Paul Smith, Robert McIntyre OPPOSED: None; ABSTAINED: Kimberly Gallagher; APPROVED: 4-0-1
MOTION to amend the Agenda to add a discussion for Application #08-015, 23 Quarry Street. MADE by Paul Smith, SECONDED by Robert McIntyre; IN FAVOR: William Pollock, Kimberly Gallagher, Charles Wehrly; Paul Smith, Robert McIntyre OPPOSED: None; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0
IV. DISCUSSION
Chairman Smith asked for comments regarding a letter which was submitted by Bunnie Lubs of 18 Quarry Street in Old Saybrook CT. Chairman Smith replied to the letter by stating that this Commission does not control pesticide applications. It is a function of DEP, the approved application did not prohibit equipment to do the required digging and that all work to date is early in the total process of things. Chairman Smith finished by pointing out that all work is being done in accordance with the permits and is being monitored on a daily basis by staff and that a house will be put on the property. No other discussion by Commission.
A. Staff Report – none
B. Representative & Subcommittee Reports – none
C. Correspondence – none
D. Approval of Minutes – none
VI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 p.m. until the next regular meeting at the Pasbeshauke Pavilion at Saybrook Point Park 155 College Street Extension on September 17, 2009. MADE by Paul Smith, SECONDED by Kimberly Gallagher; IN FAVOR: William Pollock, Kimberly Gallagher, Charles Wehrly; Paul Smith, Robert McIntyre OPPOSED: None; ABSTAINED: none; APPROVED: 5-0-0
Respectfully Submitted,
William Pollock, Secretary
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