TOWN OF OLD SAYBROOK
Inland Wetlands & Watercourses Commission
302 Main Street Old Saybrook, Connecticut 06475-1741
Telephone (860) 395-3131 FAX (860) 395-1216
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
THURSDAY, June 16, 2005 at 7:00 p.m.
Pasbeshauke Pavilion at Saybrook Point Park
155 College Street Extension
Saybrook Point
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman, Frank Jones, called the Executive Session to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Attendant Members Absent Members
Frank Jones, Chairman Frank Reichart, Economic Dev. Rep
Paul Smith, Vice Chairman Kevin Zawoy, Regular Member
Charles Sohl, Zoning Representative Brendan McKeown, Alternate Member
Robert McIntyre, Planning Representative
Judy Preston, Conservation Representative
Kimberly Gallagher, Alternate Member
Robert McIntyre, Planning Representative
Attendant Staff
Christina Costa, IWWC Enforcement Officer
Andrea DeDominicis, Recording Clerk
Mike Cronin, Legal
III. EXECUTIVE SESSION: Discussion of Pending Litigation
MOTION: made at 7:00 p.m. by Frank Jones, to enter Executive Session. SECONDED: by Paul Smith. IN FAVOR: K. Gallagher, J. Preston, B. McIntyre, C. Sohl, W. Pollock. OPPOSED: none ABSTAINING: none APPROVED: 7-0-0
MOTION: made at 7:35 p.m. by Paul Smith, to exit Executive Session. SECONDED: by Judy Preston. IN FAVOR: K. Gallagher, F. Jones, B. McIntyre, C. Sohl, W. Pollock. OPPOSED: none ABSTAINING: none APPROVED: 7-0-0
IV. PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS
A. Riversound Development, LLC. – The Preserve Open Space Subdivision
(934 ac. total)
Ingham Hill and Bokum Roads (Map 55, 56, & 61 / Lots 6, 3, 15, 17, 18)
Residence Conservation C District, Aquifer Protection Area
Applicant: River Sound Development, LLC. Agent: David Royston, Esq.
ACTION: Preliminary review
Attorney David Royston, representing River Sound Development, LLC. briefly
explained the “special exception” granted by the Planning Commission to River
Sound Development. The Planning Commission has approved the “concept” of
the open space subdivision plans, which include 221 residential units, golf
course and open space areas for the property. Paul Smith clarifies to the IWWC
Commission members that River Sound Development must also obtain the “final
approval” regarding the subdivision.
Attorney Royston mentions that it is the intention of the applicant to
apply for all necessary Inland Wetland permits required for regulated
activities on the property. The applicant is planning to file the IWWC
application before the next regularly scheduled meeting on July 21, 2005.
Dennis Goderre of the BL Company, addressed the different housing types, three roadway access points and golf cart crossing areas. Terry Gallagher representing the BL Company, spoke briefly about the proposed storm water management plans. Chris Costa told the Commission members that she is working with the BL Company staff, administratively, to obtain the proper permits and supervision for hole boring, timber mats, and protection of the wetland areas while tests are
taking place.
Attorney Mike Cronin had questions about the road access points which cross over Old Saybrook town property. He asked the applicant to supply detailed plans regarding these cross over areas.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS (none)
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. 05-004 Edward Braza, Jr.
Application to construct a single family 2 bedroom house with attached garage.
Corner of Boston Post Road and Quarry St. (Map 29, Lot 29) o.36 acre of
wetlands.
Residence A District
Accepted: 2/17/05, Open PH: (Extended): 4/21/05, Close PH by: 5/26/05,
Decision by: 6/27/05
ACTION: Review and Act.
Frank Jones and William Pollock state that they listened to the Braza public
hearing tapes. There were four members who would be able to vote on the
application this evening. Paul Smith mentioned to the Commission members
that Penelope Sharpe, environmentalist, due to time constraints could not review
additional information about the vernal pool. Kim Gallagher states that without
Penelope Sharpe additional report, she would lean towards denying the
application. Paul Smith states to members that he would vote to approve the
application because there is upland areas which can be regulated and the
applicant has reduced the size and agreed to various conditions made by
the Commission.
MOTION to approve application #05-004, Edward Braza, Jr., Corner of Boston Post Rd. and Quarry St. (Map 29, Lot 29) to allow construction of a single family 2-bedroom house with attached garage, based on revised drawing dated 5/5/05. MOVED by Paul Smith. SECONDED by Frank Jones. IN FAVOR: F. Jones, P.Smith, W. Pollock. OPPOSED: K. Gallagher; ABSTAINING: none.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
Commission members amended agenda order to accomodate applicants
that were present at 8:50 p.m
A. 05-007 Grossman Chevrolet-Nissan-Geo
Application to excavate 450 cubic yards of contaminated soil from an area
outside of the wetland boundary and replace with an equal volume of clean fill.
300 Middlesex Turnpike (Map 52, Lot 74) wetland area on adjacent property.
Gateway Business District, Agent: Joe Wren P.E.
ACTION: Accept application, determine if significant activity and if Ordinance 71 fees required.
John Hankins, engineer for the applicant, addressed the Commission members. He would like to excavate and backfill certain soils, none of it on the wetland side. Mr. Hankins stated that the clean up was not complicated. The top 4 feet of soil would be stripped and kept for future use. The contaminated soil beneath, would be exposed and removed. Mr. Hankins said the applicant will also erect a silt fence to protect the wetland area from the pavement and grass which is currently on the site.
Paul Smith asked the applicant to clarify the vegetation cover that is proposed for use on addendum sheet #2. Charles Sohl asked if the applicant will be going onto the adjacent property for clean up. Mr. Hankins said yes, the applicant is responsible to clean up that area as well. Paul Smith felt the applicant should get permission from the adjacent property owner should the application be approved. Judy Preston asked about the history of contamination on the site. Mr. Hankins believed there was a build up of contamination flowing from a floor drain long ago before the current owner.
MOTION to accept application #05-007, Grossman Chevrolet-Nissan-Geo, 300 Middlesex Turnpike, (Map 52, Lot 74). The next special meeting date for this application will be Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., location to be announced. MOVED by Paul Smith. SECONDED by Robert McIntyre. IN FAVOR: F. Jones, P. Smith, W. Pollock, R. McIntyre, J. Preston, K. Gallagher, C. Sohl OPPOSED: none. ABSTAINING: none. APPROVED: 7-0-0
B. 05-010 Darren J. Courtright
Application to construct a 2-bedroom house, sanitary system and perform
associated grading within the Inland Wetland regulated area.
505 Main Street (Map 23, Lot 79-1) 2.8 acres of wetlands
Residence A District, Agent: Darcy Collins, P.E.
ACTION: Accept application, determine if significant activity and if Ordinance 71
fees are required.
Darcy Collins, engineer for the applicant, stated there will be no activity in the
wetland area. A portion of an existing driveway spans approximately 50’ feet
within the wetland area and is the access driveway to the house. Rich Snarski did
flag the tidal and inland wetland area. The driveway will be stone.
The proposed 2-bedroom house and living filters sanitary system is within the 100’
regulated area. The house will be constructed on piers, there will not be a basement
or crawl space. All utilities will be within the framework of the building.
Judy Preston would like to walk the site. Darcy Collins said that would be fine.
MOTION to accept application #05-010, Darren J. Courtright, 505 Main Street (Map 23, Lot 79-1). The next special meeting date for this application will be Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., location to be announced. MOVED by Frank Jones. SECONDED by Paul Smith. IN FAVOR: F. Jones, P. Smith, W. Pollock, R. McIntyre, J. Preston, K. Gallagher, C. Sohl OPPOSED: none. ABSTAINING: none. APPROVED: 7-0-0
C. 05-008 Blue Point, Inc.
Application to construct a single family 4-bedroom house with attached 2-car
garage, driveway, utilities, subsurface sewage disposal system.
0 Bokum Road (Map 57, Lot25-2) 20+ acres of wetlands.
Residence AAA District, Agent: Joe Wren, P.E.
ACTION: Accept application, determine if significant activity and if Ordinance 71
fees are required.
Joe Wren, engineer for the applicant, states the wetland area has been flagged by
Richard Snarski and there will not be any filling of the wetlands. Paul Smith
would like the plans to show the grading and access of the driveway.
Judy Preston asks Mr. Wren if the entire site is within the 100’ foot regulated
area and Mr. Wren said it is and mentions there will be a stone driveway and a
basement.
Paul Smith said the plans must also show a tracking pad at the entrance. Soil test
results and the two vernal pools on the property need to be shown on the plans also.
Judy Preston asks for the definition of Significant Activity. Frank Jones states that if
the disturbance to a wetland is small in scale then Ordinance 71 fees are not required.
The Commission members decide that this may be a significant activity and Ordinance
71 fees will be required.
MOTION to accept application #05-008, Blue Point Inc., 0 Bokum Road (Map 57, Lot 25-2). This application is deemed a significant activity and Ordinance 71 fees are required. The next regularly scheduled meeting date for this application will be Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., location to be announced. MOVED by Frank Jones. SECONDED by Paul Smith. IN FAVOR: F. Jones, P. Smith, W. Pollock, R. McIntyre, J. Preston, K. Gallagher, C. Sohl OPPOSED: none. ABSTAINING: none. APPROVED: 7-0-0
D. 05-009 Donald and Karen Brodeur
Application to construct a 24’x 24’ 2-car garage and driveway modifications.
214 Ingham Hill Road (Map 56, Lot 7-23) wetland area unknown.
Residence AAA District, Agent: Joe Wren, P.E.
ACTION: Accept application, determine if significant activity and if Ordinance 71
fees are required.
Joe Wren, engineer representing Donald and Karen Brodeur states the applicants
would like to add 24’ x 24’ 2-car garage and paved access to the garage. It will be
placed as far from the wetland area as possible. The existing garage is a 2-car garage
which was built under the house. Joe Wren said the applicants are not going to
convert their current garage to the best of his knowledge. They are looking for
additional garage space to accommodate the family vehicles. Paul Smith asked Mr. Wren to clarify the restricted covenants in the
development. Mr. Wren will check what the covenants are and report his findings
at the next meeting.
MOTION to accept application #05-009, Donald and Karen Brodeur, 214 Ingham Hill Road (Map 56, Lot 7-23). The next regularly scheduled meeting date for this application will be Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., location to be announced. MOVED by Paul Smith. SECONDED by Frank Jones. IN FAVOR: F. Jones, P. Smith, W. Pollock, R. McIntyre, J. Preston, K. Gallagher, C. Sohl OPPOSED: none. ABSTAINING: none. APPROVED: 7-0-0
E. 05-012 Max’s Place, LLC.
Application for Resubdivision and relocation of existing cul-de-sac for
Center Road West and removal of 475 feet of former town roadway.
(Map 25, Lot 2, 28, 29, 30)
(Map 26, Lot 6-10, 6-11, 6-12, 32, 32-1)
Business B-4 District, Agent: David Royston, Esq.
ACTION: Accept application, detemine if significant activity and if Ordinance 71
fees required.
Attorney David Royston was representing Max’s Place, LLC. Attorney Royston
states that part of this proposal is to acquire a section, of a parcel of land, the
town owns. This application proposes a change in the road layout for a
cul-de-sac. If this application is approved then the applicant will appear
before the Zoning Commission for resubdivision to combine the properties and
apply for permits to build a grocery store.
Dave Ziaks, engineer for F,A. Hesketh Associates, talks about the plan to
remove a section of an existing roadway and road base and plant the area
with loom and grass seed. Paul Smith questioned why the cul-de-sac needs
a curb. Mr. Smith would prefer not to have a curb which will lessen the need
for fill. Mr. Smith says the Commission may make it a condition to remove the
curb if the application is approved.
Commission members ask questions about a vernal pool on the property.
Dave Ziaks says his experts do not think it is a vernal pool.
MOTION to accept application #05-012, Max’s Place, LLC., Center Road West (Map 25, Lot 2,28,29,30) (Map 26, Lot 6-10,6-11, 6-12, 32, 32-1) The next special meeting date for this application will be Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., location to be announced. MOVED by Paul Smith. SECONDED by Frank Jones. IN FAVOR: F. Jones, P. Smith, W. Pollock, R. McIntyre, J. Preston, K. Gallagher, C. Sohl OPPOSED: none. ABSTAINING: none.
APPROVED: 7-0-0
F. 05-011 Old Saybrook Board of Education
Application to regrade new playing fields for High School Sports programs.
1111 Boston Post Rd. Old Saybrook High School
Residence A District, Agent: Ray Giollito, AIA
ACTION: Accept application, determine if significant activity and if Ordinance 71
fees required.
Raymond Giolitto states that the Board of Education would like to flatten part of
the field area which is sloped. This will provide more playing field area for the
school sports programs. Mr. Giolitto said the field area will not be irrigated.
MOTION to accept application #05-011, Old Saybrook Board of Education, 1111 Boston Post Road, Old Saybrook High School. The next special meeting date for this application will be Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., location to be announced. MOVED by Paul Smith. SECONDED by Frank Jones. IN FAVOR: F. Jones, P. Smith, W. Pollock, R. McIntyre, J. Preston, K. Gallagher, C. Sohl OPPOSED: none. ABSTAINING: none. APPROVED: 7-0-0
VIII. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. Staff report – None
B. Representative Reports – None
C. Correspondence – Included in packets
D. Approval of Minutes
The Commission approved the meeting minutes of May 19, 2005 as submitted.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION to adjourn the meeting at 10:37 p.m until next special meeting on Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 7:00 p.m., location to be announced. MOVED by Paul Smith. SECONDED by K. Gallagher. IN FAVOR: K. Gallagher, W. Pollock, P. Smith, R. McIntyre, F. Jones, C.Sohl, J. Preston. OPPOSED: none. ABSTAINING: none. APPROVED: 7-0-0
Next Special Meeting
Thursday, July 14, 2005
Location to be Announced
Respectfully Submitted,
Andrea DeDominicis
Andrea DeDominicis, Recording Clerk
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