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Historic District Commission Minutes 02/19/2015
MINUTES REGULAR MEETING
Thursday, February 19, 2015 a t 7:00p.m.
Town Hall, 2"'1 Floor Conference Room- 302 l\1Iain Street



I.      CALL TO ORDER

Chair, Diane Aldi DePaola called the meeting to order at 7:00 p. m. II.         ROLL CALL
Members Present: Diane A ldi DePaola, Mar y Kennedy, Jeff l\Icotti and William Childress

Members Absent:  Rich Peters, Eugene Creighton, Donald  Brigham

Staff Present:  Stella Beaudoin, Recording Clerk

II.     REGULAR BUSINESS

A.         Minutes

The Com.mission reviewed the January 15, 2015 meeting Minutes and motioned  to approve wit h one arnendtnent.

MOTI ON: To approve  the l\linutes of November  20, 2014 with the following amendment;  \Y/. Childress  a bstained  from  the  vote  on  the  a pproval  of  the    Minutes;  MADE: \XI. Childress; SECONDED: M. Kennedy; IN FAVOR: D. DePaola, M. Kennedy, \XI. Childress; OPPOSED:
None; ABSTAINED: J. Meotti; APPROVED: 3-0-1.

B.         Correspondence

l\Iembers were provided  with a copy of the Secretary of the Interior's  Standards  for
Rehabilitation and Guidelines for Rehabilitating Historic Buildings.

C.          Committee, Representa tive and Staff Reports

D DePaola stated that she has been asked to write a brief article for Old Sa y brook Events explaining the Conunission's mission s tatement and activities over the past year.

III.    OLD  BUSINESS

a.   Historic Structures Inventory

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Due  to inclemen t weather,  David  Ta ylor was no t available to presen t the status update at this evening's meeting on  the preliminary report  of the Historic Resource  Inventory.  D. Taylor will present  at the March 19, 2015 regularly scheduled  meeting.

b.      Review of By-Laws

At  the January 2015 meeting  members discussed  the requirement s ta ted in the Commission's by­
la ws which mandates that an a nnual meeting is to be cond ucted in the IIlO nth of December.

W. Childress  sta ted that although the CT General  State Statute would allow a more  flexible time table for  the date of annual  meeting,  the Town  ordinance s ta tes that the annual  meeting will be conducted within 30 days after  the flrst of Decernber.

\Y/. Childress suggested the following amendments to the Comm.ission's by-laws:

•     Article VI - Meetings, Section  1, first sentence;  remove the comma at the end of the sentence and replace with a period.

•     Article VIII - Hearings, Section  3, last word in the fust sentence; change from  "officers" to
"o£fleer".


•     Article  IX- Amendmen ts; Remove "Section 1".  Change  the paragraph to include  the colon at the end of the sentence and  the following verbiage  noted  in italics: "The By-Laws  of the Cornm.ission  ma y be amended by a majority vote  of the Comm.ission  me11:1bers present, provid ed a copy of the proposed amendment shall have been  furn.ished with a no tice of such  meeting:The Commissio11 mqy hold public hearings, in addition to req uired  hearings,  when it decides  that such hearings will be in the public interest."

Review of Criteria

B Childress stated  that at the last meeting there was a question  as to what the criteria  were for t he design  gu.idelines  a nd if it was cl.ifferent than  that of the Department of the In terior. The Department of In terior sta ndards were adopted by Nor th Cove  His toric District Con:mussion (NCI-IDC)  at their meeting  conducted on October 15, 1985. However, it is n ot clear how they were derived.

At the July 9, 1985 NCHDC meeting,  copies of the Standards for  Rehabilitation and  Guidelines for Rehabilitating Historic Buildings  were distributed to the members. The  head of the Fenwick Historic Dis trict was a guest  at an organizational meeting, and it is specula ted that he may ha ve had input  in to the guidelines.  The standards were adopted at the October 15, 1985 NCHDC rneeting.

In 2003, R. Bradbury, former  NCHDC Chair forwarded the Nor th Cove  Historic Dis trict
Commissions draft  design guidelines to the State Historical  Comn.ussion. J. Pal Loether,
Government Coorcl.inator at t he CT Historical Comnussion responded sta ting that  th e NCHDC draft  design guidelines were  fully consistent with  the Secretary of the Interior's Sta ndard s and Guidelines for Rehabili ta tion, on wruch  they are based.

W. Childress suggested  that  the Con1.n.ussion make changes  to the current guidelines  and to pla ce them on the Town's website.  Also, to obtain  the most  recent Secretary  of the Imerior's Standards a nd Guidelines a nd place  th e m on the Tow n 's website.

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D. DePaola suggested  that a statement be added  to the   JCHDC  application directing  the applicant to review the Conun.ission's guidelines which is located  on  th e Tow n's we bsite, and to state on  the application how their proposal  docs  or does  not conform to those guidelines.

W. Childress  referenced a 2005 document entitled  "Identi fying Historic Properties Land Records Notice." This document was designed to address  a way in which  to notify the public a nd other agents  on how  to identify  the boundaries of the NCHD and the inclividua l property contained therein.  This  letter  suggested  that i n order  to facilitate compliance by the Town  Clerk with the CT General Sta te Sta tutes, the Town  Clerk is to be provided with a current list of the names and add resses of tl1e owners of record  of properties within the boundaries of the NCHD to ensure that the proper notice  on the Grantor Index  as been record ed.

MOTION:  To  amend  the criteria  of  the North Cove  Historic District  Conuniss.ion  Guidelines by incorporating the tluee suggestions contained in tl1e letter  to R. Bradbury  dated .t\pril 14, 2003 from J. Paul  Loetl1er, Local  Goverru11ent Coordinator, State  of CT Historica l Co1ru11ission, and to change  the name  from  North Cove  Historic District  Commission to Old  Say brook  Historical
District  Conunission; MADE: D. DePa ola; SECONDED: J. Mcotti;  IN FAVOR: D. DePaola,
M. Kenned y, W. Childress, J. Meotti; OPPOSED:  None; ABSTAINED: None; APPROVED:
4-0-0.

W. Childress .reported  that per the (CGS) Connecticut General  State Sta tu te Section  8-1c, "Fees for municipa l land use a pplications", which states  tl1at "Any  mutucipality  may, by ordinance, establish  a schedule  of reasonable fees for  the processing of applications by a municipal  z011ing conunission, planrung comnussion, combined pla n and zoning  conunission, zoning  board of appeals  or inland wetlands commission."

W. Childress stated  that  tlUs CGS allows land use to hire an expert  to advise tl1e va rious boards and conunission on  matters  related  to the land and  to construction. The  fees for tlus service are to be paid by the a pplicant. The  experts  that tl1e conullissions retain will provide  an estimate of cost, and  the formula for pa yment is the cost which is multiplied  by 1 Vz times. t\ bond  is then posted  on  that amount. W. Childress stated  tl1at statewide, the Historic District Commissions were omitted from  tlUs Statu te.

MOTION:  For  D. DePaola  to approach the local  representative concerning an amendment  to the CT  General State  Statute to include  Historic District  Com tnissions in  tl1e provision  allowing boards  and  comnussions to require  the retention of an expert  whose  services  will be paid for by
the  applicant; MADE: W.  Childress;  SECONDED: J. l\!Ieo tti; IN  FAVOR: D.  DePaola,  M.
Kennedy, J. Meotti,  W.  Childress; OPPOSED:  None;  ABSTAINED:  None; APPROVED:
4-0-0.

VI.     ADJOURNMENT


MOTION to adjourn the meeting  at 7:50  p.m. until the next regular  meeting on March 19, 2015 at  7:00  P.M.,  Town  Hall,  2"u  Floor  Conference Room, 302  tviain  Street:;    MADE  by J. Mcotti; SECONDED by M Kenned y;  IN FAVOR: D. DePaola, M. Kennedy, J. Meotti,  W. Childress.
OPPOSED: None; ABSTAINED:       one; APPROVED: 4-0-0


Respectfully Submitted,

Stella Beaudoin, Recording Clerk

STATE   OF      CONNECTICUT
CONNECTICUT HISTORICAL  COMMISSION







Ms. Randi Bradbury
Chair
North Cove Historic District Commission
Old Saybrook Town Hall
Box 618- 302 Main Street
Old Saybrook, CT 06475

Subject:

Dear Ms. Bradbury:
April 14, 2003


Thank you for forwar:ding a copy of the North Cove Historic District   Commission's draft design guidelines.  They appear to me to be qmte good, as well as fully consistent with the Secretary of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines for Rehabilitation on which they are based.  Having finally had a chance to review them in detail, I offer up several modest, but hopefully useful, suggestions::








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a)    For the sake of overall clarity of intent, you may want to consider inserting  an additional introductory paragraph which describes in general terms the authority and purview of your Commission with respect to the North Cove District- e.g., that "the North Cove Historic District Commission  in accordance with a town ordinance enacted pursuant to C.G.S., Sec. 7-147a through  C.G.S., Section 7-147m, regulates any changes
(other than routine maintenance) made to the exterior of buildings and structures which are located withinthe
_ - ho!.mlhries.of.the-ilistrict; which.a.r,e..a:ffixed to-the--·h!nd; and which are·visible :frvm-:a-public-S"'"ueet; way·ol- place."   You may also want to indicate that specific guidelines/recommendations which fall outside the scope
of your Commission's regulatory purview (if any) are included for educational/advisory purposes only.

b)I would also recommend that in final form, the document include either a table of contents or an index which locates the various types of treatments discussed (i.e., masonry, new additions, etc.) by page number ·within the document as a whole.  This will make the piece much more effective and useful (especially for the previously uninitiated) on a day-to-day basis.

c)    You might also consider specifically indicating that it is your Commission's intent that the guidelines be "consistenf ' with the Secretary' of the Interior's Standards and Guidelines for Rehabilitation, and incorporate these Standards and Guidelines in their entirety into the document by reference.  That way, if any "gray areas" arise in the North Cove guidelines regarding design issues which fall under the North Cove Commission's purview, the SOl Standards and Guidelines can be utilized to support a Commission decision. Incorporating the SOl Standards in this way my also serve well ifwith respect to planning and zoning issues which may relate to the district or adjacent areas.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment.     apologize for having taken sol long to accomplish this review.but as
rm sure you are aware, our declining staff and budget situations here in Hartford are taking their toll.

Ifyou have aizy questions regarding my comments, please feel free to contact me at 860-566-3005, ext. 326 or at paul.loether@.po.state.ct.us.

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