NOTTINGHAM PLANNING BOARD
June 17, 2009
PUBLIC SESSION
Approved & Amended
Type of Meeting: Scheduled
Method of Notification: Posted at the Nottingham Municipal Building & Nottingham Post Office
Meeting Location: Nottingham Municipal Building
PB Members Present: Scott Canney, Chair; Arthur Stockus, Secretary; Bill Dean, Vice Chair; Ms. Susan Mooney, Mr. Peter Gylfphe, Robert “Buzz” Davies; Alternate Member, Ms. Mary Bonser; Selectmen’s Representative
PB Members Absent: Traci Chauvey; Alt. Member, Cheryl Smith; Alt. Member
Others Present: Lisa Sears; Land Use Clerk, Chris Albert; Jones & Beach Engineers, Inc., Raymond Howard, applicant
Chair Canney called the meeting to order at approximately 7:05 pm. Mr. Davies was seated for the open seat.
The Board moved the review of the minutes until after the case. Chair Canney read the first case.
Point of Order: The following two cases (P07-08-SUB & P07-09-SUB) were opened simultaneously and heard in conjunction with each other. This is one subdivision involving both properties. The access & egress roads are dependent upon both applications.
Case # P07-08-SUB: (continued) Little River Realty Trust, Lucille Howard, Trustee – Stage Road – Map 17 Lot 25 – Application for a 6- lot Subdivision (acceptance, compliance review, and final approval)
Case # P07-09-SUB: (continued) Leonard Giles Revocable Trust, Leonard Giles, Trustee – Gebig Road – Map 17 Lot 31 – Application for a 23- lot Subdivision (acceptance, compliance review, and final approval)
Chris Albert addressed the Board and briefly discussed the site walk of June 9th. He noted that they are still doing a physical assessment of the wetlands line and getting language for the conservation easements. He also noted that they are in the process of redoing the plans with the correct logo and acreage information. He gave a copy of the June 1st NHDOT Driveway Permit Application with the corrected number of lot (29). He also noted that they will probably do a site walk with the NHDOT.
Mr. Albert noted that he is a wetland scientist and not a soil scientist. He noted they are in the process of retaining a soil scientist for HISS mapping for the new site specific State regulations.
Mr. Albert stared that they hadn’t met with the Conservation Commission (CC), yet. The Board noted they would need a letter from CC with their input and recommendations. He briefly touched on trying to get the wetlands crossing to under 10,000 square feet of impact. He noted that this has been a 2 year process and they did not wish to start changing the lot configurations. He noted the new set of plans will have minor changes like the logos, and possible vertical alignment and retention ponds may change as well.
Ms. Bonser asked if the Historic Society had attended the site walk. It was noted that Mr. Corriveau had gone representing both the Cemetery Trustee and Historical Society. Mr. Stockus noted Mr. Corriveau did not seemed concern with the old foundation but had more concerns for the old cemetery. Chair Canney noted the possible town liability in saving the old foundation; the possibility of a child falling in it.
Mr. Gylfphe was concerned if there was an old well on the property. Mr. Albert stated he didn’t know of one. Mr. Gylfphe later, also expressed concerned about a large pine tree on the property corner/road and that it would be in the sight line. Mr. Albert again noted their will be a site walk with NHDOT for those type of issues and their recommendations. At this time it is not scheduled but Mr. Albert will keep Mrs. Sears updated.
Ms. Mooney noted that the next CC meeting is scheduled for July 13th but Mr. Albert will have to contact the Chair to schedule that. She noted some individual CC members concerns but noted nothing can be recommended until after the public meeting with the CC. They briefly discussed cul-de-sacs but nothing was discussed in detail. Mr. Albert noted that it must be something that the whole PB would have to address. Mr. Albert noted that there is still a lot “leg work” left to do. He noted tonight was just to keep the pace going.
Mr. Albert noted that the lawyer is still working on sample language for the conservation easement(s) that was promised at the May 20th meeting. It was noted that there has been no review of from the Fire Chief to date. Mr. Albert noted that he has made many attempts to connect with the Fire Department but had not been successful, yet. He noted that cisterns and dry hydrants may be the solutions but he is waiting to hear from the Chief.
Mrs. Sears asked if the issues addressed in the old compliance review done by SRPC had been taken care of. Mr. Albert stated that he believed that they all had been done. It was noted that after the new plans come in a new compliance review will need to be done.
Mr. Albert noted that the individual town driveway permits, as requested by the Building Inspector, are being worked on in his office.
Mr. Dean had everyone review the plans with concerns for the old foundation area, stonewalls and cemetery areas. He noted that he was impressed with the historical aspect of the area and believes it is a feature that should be preserved. He discussed in great details what he believed to be minor changes needed to move the road to the left so that the area could be saved and used as a recreational area for the children of the development.
Ms. Bonser sympathized with Mr. Dean’s concerns but was concerned what the area would look like once road construction was completed. Chair Canney was concerned of the safety and liability of the old foundation area, as it is today.
Mr. Dean thought the lot sizes of the surrounding proposed lots could be adjusted and a waiver could be granted for reduced lot sizes on those. Mr. Gylfphe asked, if the area is preserved would there be enough room for one or two parking spaces, as well. Chair Canney noted there will be parking spaces in the cemetery area. Mr. Albert noted he understood what Mr. Dean wanted to do but he had concerns for the lot sizes and if lots shifted then they may not meet the wetlands setbacks/buffers as well as 2 of the lots would no longer have any frontage. Mr. Albert implied that these types of changes were not minor.
Mrs. Sears had concerns that if done, the reduced lots and lack of frontage could not be done with waivers here at the Planning Board level but would need to go before the ZBA. Mr. Dean noted that he believes this area will be of value to the children of the development and was worth trying to save.
Ms. Bonser noted that the applicant will set aside the required area for the cemetery. Mr. Albert noted at this late time he would not like to have to make major engineering type changes to roads and lots. He noted that a lot of time was put into the design of the road in order to minimize the impact to the surrounding wetlands, intersecting angles and the like. Chair Canney agreed that it would be a major change to preserve the foundation area.
They briefly discussed some of the Conservation Commission ideas that were brought up at the site walk. Mr. Howard expressed concern of the talk of cul-de-sacs and major changes again at this late point. It was noted that the applicant must contact the Conservation Commission and then the Conservation Commission will make recommendations to this Board.
MOTION by Mr. Gylfphe to recess this hearing until the July 15th meeting.
SECOND by Mr. Davies
VOTE 7-Aye. 0- Opposed 0- Abstained MOTION PASSED
Nottingham Planning Board’s Bylaws
The Board members signed the bylaws, previously approved.
Review of the minutes
June 3, 2009
Line 29 change Cannery to Canney
Line 79 change impute to input
Line 87 change latter to later
MOTION by Ms. Bonser to accept the minutes of June 3, 2009 as amended.
SECOND by Mr. Gylfphe
VOTE 7-Aye. 0- Opposed 0- Abstained MOTION PASSED
June 9, 2009
Line 44 insert the size of after the word reduce
MOTION by Ms. Bonser to accept the minutes of June 9, 2009 as amended.
SECOND by Mr. Gylfphe
VOTE 5-Aye. 0- Opposed 2- Abstained MOTION PASSED
Capital Improvements Plan (CIP) committee representative needed
Mrs. Sears noted that this Board needs to have a representative on the CIP committee. Mr. Stockus volunteered to represent this Board.
MOTION by Mr. Stockus to appoint Arthur Stockus as the representative to the CIP committee.
SECOND by Ms. Bonser
VOTE 7-Aye. 0- Opposed 0- Abstained MOTION PASSED
Planning Board Process for Home Occupations
Mrs. Sears noted there was a new application for a home occupation for a day care. She asked how the Board would like to handle these types of cases now and in the future. The Board discussed and concluded that Paul Colby could be the one to determine if the Home Occupation was a “Major” or “Minor” one. If Mr. Colby determines that it is a Major Home Occupation, then the applicant must appear before this Board.
Ms. Mooney had questions about this daycare. She was asking about the ages of the children and the disposal of diapers. Mrs. Sears will inquire about this.
Storm Water Management/Model Ordinances
Mrs. Sears followed up with a sample ordinance she had sent via email to the Board. She asked if the Board wanted to have this worked into the Subdivision Regulations (Sub Regs). Mr. Stockus spoke of the benefits to having a storm water plan/ordinance. The Board discussed but decided against adding anything to the Sub Regs, at this time.
Mrs. Sears also noted that the Sub Regs will be back from the attorney’s review by the 24th and under budget. She also noted Mr. Mette cannot attend the meeting of the 24th. The Board discussed and decided to have a meeting with Mr. Mette on the 25th instead of the 24th if he was available; if he was then there will be no meeting on the 24th.
There was a general discussion on Planning Ideals. The Board also decided to review the Village Plan Alternative documents for “homework”.
MOTION by Ms. Bonser to adjourn.
SECOND by Mr. Dean
VOTE 7-Aye. 0- Opposed 0- Abstained MOTION PASSED
Respectfully Submitted,
Lisa L. Sears
Land Use Clerk
These minutes are subject to approval at a regularly scheduled Planning Board meeting at which time the above minutes are corrected or accepted.
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