PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES
TUESDAY – DECEMBER 6, 2005
356 Main Street – Farmington, NH
Members Present: Charlie King, Don MacVane, Hiram Watson, Jim Horgan, David Kestner, Charles Wibel, Jason Lauze - Alternate
Absent: Mark Paulin - without notification
Doreen T. Hayden – out sick with notification
Selectmen’s Rep: Paul Parker
Staff Present: Paul Esswein
Public Present: Betty Vachon, Bill Vachon, Randy Tetreault, Surveyor-Norway Plains Associates, Scott A. Lawler-Norway Plains Associates, Randy Orvis-Orvis/Drew, Roland & Judi Monesin, Aaron Lord, Phil Minschwaned, Jon Berry-Berry Surveying & Engineering, Patricia Montgomery-Fernald, Charles Goss, Malcolm Glidden, Yvonne & Rodney Blinn, Rick Sager, Neil McMorin, Rick Mahoney, Robert Barney
(please note that although the attendance sheet requests that names be printed, the public continues to write and
some of the writing is not legible therefore spellings could possibly be wrong.)
Chairman King called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Review and approve meeting minutes of 11-01-2005; Jim Horgan motions to approve, 2nd Paul Parker, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Review and approve meeting minutes of 11-02-2005; Jim Horgan motions to approve, 2nd Don MacVane, discussion; Charles Wibel - Page 3, 3rd paragraph changed wording to “I would like them to meet with water & sewer”, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Review and approve meeting minutes of 11-15-2005; Jim Horgan motions to approve, 2nd by Don MacVane, discussion; Chairman King – Page 2; Paragraph I; last sentence add the word “motion” following “after this”; no further discussion, all those in favor, 6-in favor, Charles Wibel abstains.
Continuation of application by: Farmington Ridge Limited Partnership; Review of sub-division of (Tax Map R47, Lot 5); To create 2 parcels; one containing 10.9 +- acres and another 130 +- acres; Site Plan Review of 70-unit manufactured home development on approximately 130 acres. Access to the proposed development is via Dick Dame Lane.
Don MacVane – Questions would we like to postpone this to January 3, 2006; Paul Esswein: Round Hall out of Newfield’s would do a traffic study, the study drives this whole project, drainage analysis is very important also.
Charlie - I recused myself before, should I now? Hiram made a motion to allow Chairman King to sit on this, Jim Horgan 2nd, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Jim Horgan motioned to hear this on January 3, 2006, Charles Wibel 2nd, Paul Parker – we can study the traffic study and wetland study on December 20, 2005 if we get them, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Continuation of site review application by: Route 11 Ridge Road Farmington, LLC (Tax Map R50, Lot 47-3): Total acreage 6.88; Property known as N. H. Route 11; development to allow construction of 2 commercial structure totaling 16,000 sq. ft. in the (IB) Industrial Business Zoning District, located at the intersections of Ridge Road and Route 11.
Attorney Craig Salomon – presentation of plan; Randy Orvis – presentation of lighting plan i.e. security,
Randy Orvis handed out revised plans and explained drainage, new notes added, general notes, color scheme will be off white, building separated by firewall, no restaurants.
Paul Esswein - No comments.
Charles Wibel – concerned about only 24’ in the back for road;
David Kestner - concerned about loading area being crowded i.e. box trucks in the back, Paul Parker - page 3 of plan, building B parking is a concern;
Chairman King - Access point and decelerate is a concern; Randy Orvis - this has been addressed; Chairman King – understand that Bob Monaghand is the engineer who is also working on this plan and he will have his stamp on the plan; Randy Orvis – yes.
Attorney Salomon - discussing on food processing (not allowed), what is going on in the back of the building,
No loading docks there, we also downsized the building, Building B is intended to be an office building will be double door and not and overhead.
Chairman King – Opens the floor to public and comments that the floor will remain open.
Paul Esswein - area behind the building A, 24’ wide this is adequate – should be no problem, I’ve reviewed the drainage and feels it’s ok.
Jim Horgan - we have a new plan tonight, did Paul Esswein review it? Paul Esswein – No.
Don MacVane - this plan is only enhanced from the previous.
Charles Wibel - still not happy with parking.
Paul Parker - snow removal is my concern.
Chairman King - concerned with contingent things -1. Easement access
2. Wetland permit
3. Site specific permit
4. Septic permit
5. Snow removal (placement)
6. See Paul (same as listed on page 3 of 6 item #6)
7. No impact to parking
Attorney Solomon - none of the engineer things have changed on the plan, snow storage – lets put it in the condo documents, that snow will be addressed in the condo documents.
Paul Esswein - has the 7 contingent items.
Chairman King comments that the public session is now closed.
Jim Horgan made motion that all contingencies: 1. Sidewalk Easement Recorded
2. DOT Permits
3. Wetland Permits and Site Specific
4. Septic Design
5. Snow removal
6. Review Plan by Town Planner
7. Snow removal added and wetland, site, drainage, parking
and plan to be stamped by Randy Orvis
will be listed on the plan, 2nd Don MacVane; discussion; Paul Parker – note for signs; Chairman King friendly amendment #9; sign in compliance with Paul Parker request; no further discussion, 4 in favor, 2 opposed Chairman King and Charles Wibel.
5 minute break
Continuation of application for site review by: Cardinal & Glidden Oil Company (Tax Map U1, Lot 24); Property known as 48 Tappan Street, located in the (CC) Commercial Center Zoning District. Applicant proposes to relocate petroleum storage tanks and construct a 30’x75’ vehicle garage.
Don MacVane - recused himself; Chairman King seated Jason Lauze – Alternate.
Randy Tetreault – Norway Plains - presentation with “new plan” with lot line adjustment upon final engineering this is what the plan will be; Lot line adjustment was made to make this a conforming lot. Talked with Dale Sprague regarding the Town wells; Randy Tetreault handed out a map showing those wells; discussion on wells; If new wells are required Dale Sprague will choose the site.
Paul Esswein - would like to wait to see what the consultant says.
Scott Lawler from Norway Plains Associates presents - Aqua and drainage plan, will remove the 3 existing tanks and construct 3 new tanks with containment areas, also new garage. Will be condensing the 3 driveways to 2.
David Kestner - concerned about the drain riprap area, would like to see a Retention Pond.
Chairman King – opens the meeting to public – no comments heard, will leave the floor open for comments.
Paul Esswein - Happy to see parking will be completed. Pleased with drainage and riprap area.
Chairman King made motion to accept the application, 2nd Jim Horgan, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Paul Esswein recommends postponing until January 3, 2006, motion by Paul Parker to postpone until January 3, 2006, 2nd by Charles Wibel, contingent on information from Dale Sprague on monitoring well and to furnish information 1 week before meeting, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Continuation of sub-division application review by: Jones Brook, LLC (George Szirbik), (Tax Map R1, Lot #2); Applicant proposes to sub-divide 262.99 acres into 37-single family house lots (60+-acres) and 203 +- acres of open space; Sub-division access to be via Governors Road.
Chairman King reseats Don MacVane and Jason Lauze is unseated.
Nate Fogg – gives a presentation, added to plan, depth of swale, and added building for children’s bus stop, proposing post office building boxes for 36 house lots. 40’ right of way, they added a 10’ easement for utilities,
headwalls added to all culverts, Pine trees will be planted by Tax Map R1, Lot 2-14 as buffers, will provide 50’ pulls off area to conservation area.
Attorney Richard Sager - easement by Cardinal was explained, planting of pines on Mr. Hayes land, providing a sample home owners association was discussed (a standard form type), also a sample easement deed.
Paul Esswein - says we have received all of the above.
Chairman King opens the floor to the public for comments.
Neil McMullen- where is this located?
Rick Mahoney - sidewalks area a good idea, would like to have sidewalks.
Paul Parker - glad to see school bus building, Is there a light pole by the mail area?
David Kestner - utility easement looks good, gravel area by conservation area is 15’ by 50’.
Charles Wibel – In homeowner’s agreement is anything mentioned on logging operations? Nate Fogg - yes there will be.
Don MacVane – motions to grant waiver on 40’ right of way, 2nd by Paul Parker (see waiver); Waiver – no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Jim Horgan - sidewalk issue; Chairman King - I think we should ask for an easement for sidewalks; Attorney Sager - I can put in each deed a sidewalk easement; Paul Esswein - you could accommodate a sidewalk in the 50’ right of way; Nate Fogg - I will add width to lower side of road to 5 feet.
Jim Horgan motions to extend meeting an additional ½ hour; 2nd by Don MacVane; no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Nate Fogg agreed to extend lower side of road to a 5-foot shoulder to possibly be ready for paving some day.
Paul Esswein - there should be a note on plan that this is a private road.
Paul Esswein - they have addressed every issue from last meeting.
Don MacVane - motions that we approve this plan contingent to: 1. State approved wetland
2. State approved site specific
3. State approved state sub division
4. Change road profile minimum 5 foot shoulder
5. Planner Review
6. All developed rights are conveyed to conservation commission or approved by Town
7. Review Homeowners Association documents and warranty deed by Paul Esswein.
2nd Charles Wibel, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
David Kestner motions for a 5-minute recess, 2nd Jim Horgan, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Hiram Watson motions to extend the meeting until 10:00 p.m., 2nd Jim Horgan, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Application for sub-division of 2 parcels into 4 parcels; By: Maurice R. Rocheleau & Thomas L. Rocheleau (Tax Map R10, Lot 12 and 12-1): property known as Reservoir Road and Sheepboro Road, located in the (AR) Agricultural Zoning District.
Randy Tetreault – Norway Plains Associates presents; a big issue is lot 3, has a large border that creates a view problem by the driveway.
David Kestner - culverts should be 18”.
Chairman King opens the floor to the public for comment.
Robert Varney - concerned on how many houses will be built.
Jim Horgan motions to approve the plan as complete, 2nd Paul Parker, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Don MacVane - motions to waive 4.09 regarding contours not shown, 2nd Hiram Watson, Chairman King makes a friendly amendment as applicant is requesting waiver, 2nd Hiram Watson, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Don MacVane – motions to accept the applications as presented with 18” culverts, 2nd Hiram Watson, discussion driveway on Lot 3, put where Woods Road is, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Application for 2-lot sub-division By: John Spatachino (Tax Map R9, Lot 2); Property known as Reservoir Road, located in the (AR) Agricultural Zoning District.
Chris Berry – Berry Surveying presents;
Paul Esswein - call the lots 1 and 2 not 2-1 and 2.
David Kestner - would like 15” culverts.
Don MacVane motions to extend the meeting an additional 15 minutes, 2nd Hiram Watson, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
David Kestner motions to accept application as complete, 2nd by Charles Wibel, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
David Kestner motions to approve sub-division as complete, 2nd Don MacVane; discussion; contingent upon state sub-division approvals and septic approvals, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
Paul Esswein - submit your comments on the article received from Ruth Scruton.
Don MacVane motions to adjourn, 2nd by Jim Horgan, no further discussion, all those in favor, motion passes.
APPROVED AS AMENDED 01-03-2006 WITH CHANGES - ALL CHANGES IN BOLD:
PAGE 2 OF 6; “SNOW REMOVAL” ADD WORD “PLACEMENT”;
PAGE 2 OF 6; SEE PAUL – “SAME AS ON PAGE 3 OF 6 - ITEM #6”;
PAGE 3 OF 6; DOD PERMITS CHANGED TO “DOT PERMITS”.
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Charlie King, Chairman Date
Farmington Planning Board
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