November 8, 2010
Work Session
Present were: Mayor Grenier, Councilors Landry, Remillard, McCue, Evans, Rozek, Poulin; absent were Councilors Cayer and Danderson
Others Present: Charlie Cotton, Margo Sullivan, Fran Cusson, Senator John Gallus, newly elected Representatives Marc Tremblay, Gary Coulombe; Corrine Cascadden, Betty Domino, Patrick MacQueen, media and public
Northern Human Services – Charlie Cotton
Mr. Cotton reported that his program has worked to keep down the need for psychiatric hospitalization dramatically. Northern Human Services has implemented a program for infant mental health to help parents of young children. They have parenting programs and there has been grant funding for equipment and remote psychiatric assessments. Without these programs, child psychiatric services would be 2.5 to 3 hours away. Mayor Grenier confirmed that NHS employs 120 to 125 locally full time benefited positions and there are a few more part time. In closing Mr. Cotton commended the Berlin PD and HD for dealing with people with mental issues.
AV Home Care – Margo Sullivan, Fran Cusson
Ms. Sullivan commented that the city has been a source of funding for AV Home Care for many years and she emphasized that they need every cent. Their program is a supplement to Title 20 that helps the elderly stay in their homes and avoids nursing home care. This service offers homemaker personal care, errands, and bath care. They ask for marginal co-pay per week. Ms. Cusson added that the program serves 80-100 clients and on a sliding fee scale and most are not able to pay because the cost of their medical care is so high. AV Home Care employs 76 to 80 employees; 1/3 are full time and there are 65 part time.
Mayor Grenier asked if any revenue is drawn from Medicaid Ms. Sullivan explained that they are not a Medicare certified agency. Mayor Grenier confirmed that in last 5 years the agency’s revenue stream has stayed the same; however costs continue to go up. Mayor Grenier established to the State elected officials present that they will begin difficult budget discussions and it’s important to hear the pleas from these agencies. Councilor Remillard affirmed with Ms. Sullivan that the difference between AV Home Care and the other service on Main Street is mainly that the other agency is for profit and not mission driven. They offer full nursing services rather than the supplemental services of AV Home Care.
Councilor Poulin commented that the City is blessed to have this program. This service is essential for people who don’t have family in the area and it is what keeps people in their homes. Ms. Sullivan concluded by saying that they are not the “jazzy” organization but they are important for keeping the elderly from institutionalization.
Senator Gallus & Representatives
Mayor Grenier welcomed Senator Gallus, new elected Representatives Marc Tremblay, and Gary Coulombe to the Council meeting. Senator Gallus was not sure if he was going to be on the Senate Finance Committee this year. He warned of a State budget crisis that will not make anyone happy. There is $ 500 million of stimulus money that was added to the State budget last year that will not be funded. There are issues with Health & Human Services, Medicare and Medicaid money that the Federal government is looking for. He stated that he would hate to have to cut from programs that need to be paid for by cities and counties. Without a giant influx of new revenue to get the budget on track, decisions may need to be made that will affect programs. There is $7 billion needed to secure the pension system
long term.
A lot of the expense is being passed on to States by the Feds and they, in turn, pass to cities and counties. The Senator wanted to keep services whole and not reach into the pockets of cities.
Mayor Grenier questioned a proposal by Senator Bradley that would delay the start of the school aid formula which would freeze the current amounts so that towns would not see an increase or decrease. This would be in Berlin’s best interest. Councilor Rozek expressed concern over educational funding. He said that Berlin's education system is an oasis in the North Country where we are disconnected from others; however the City provides tremendous public education. Our school is very unique in that one would have to go the other end of the state to match programs that are here. He stressed that he is interested in being kept in the loop as legislation on school funding progresses. It is important that the city be proactive and send letters of support when needed.
Mayor Grenier noted that it is important that the City is aware of any piece of legislation that may have an effect on Berlin with unintended consequences. He added that he is available to testify. Councilor McCue thanked the delegation members for coming to the meeting and for their service. He addressed the new representatives asking them to be aware of the impact of their actions on cities and towns with the potential of downshifting costs. Positions in the Legislature are important and as important is the role of the county delegation and working with the County commissioners.
Mayor Grenier commented that the Association of Counties will go over responsibilities and statutory requirements and he recommended that the new legislators take part. Mr. MacQueen made the point that the State grants pollution exemptions to industries that are regulated and mandated to have pollution control equipment and the City has been opposed to these pollution exemptions and has supported eliminating the exemptions.
Senator Gallus stated that if there is a need for legislation, the delegation can help with that. Mayor Grenier thanked all for coming and noted that the City Manager has an open door policy and if there is a chance of an adverse effect on the city to let him know. He thanked them for making the commitment to serve.
Update on School Department
Corinne Cascadden reported that there are 37 out of district placements in the school system with $662,728 in tuition costs anticipated which is more than budgeted; however the population using these services is fluid and it is possible that by March or April, either she will have to come to the City for additional funds or the situation will have worked itself out.
Ms. Cascadden explained that she's been asked about statistical trends and has put together an analysis of students over the past 5 years. It's been said that the City is taxed by the population change in the city and when the numbers were put together, it was found that students eligible for free and reduced lunch in Berlin was 38% in 2005/06 and is now 48% in 2010/11. In relation to other communities' school districts, a random sampling of the same population ranged from 24% to 43%. Special education was 11 to 19% for other communities and the State average is 15.4%; however Berlin's average is 24% in 2010/11.
The statistics validate that the needs are huge. Ms. Cascadden established that State aid to education is expected to be cut by $500,000 and there is $476,000 of ARRA funds for salaries that will not be there next year. This will create a huge gap in the budget. The School Department has 19 less employees than last year.
Work Camp New England
On the "good news" side, Ms. Cascadden reported that there is an exciting program based out of Litchfield NH called Work Camp New England. They have students who tuition to come and take over a school; they sleep on cots in classrooms, shower in the gym showers, and eat in the cafeteria. The students offer community service free of charge to residents and will work on home projects such as painting, yard work, building handicap ramps, roofs etc. There are 200 students who will come in July and there are at least 800 homes that meet the requirements for the project. Ms. Cascadden noted that she called other communities who have hosted the group and they are eager to have them back.
Councilor Rozek confirmed that there is not work in the school for this group to do. Councilor Landry asked if this will take away work from local contractors. Andre Caron replied that the people being helped cannot afford to pay for service and upkeep to their homes. The Neighborhood Revitalization Program ran out of funds before getting to any of the work to be done on aesthetics.
Councilor McCue asked if there are costs to the district and Ms Cascadden confirmed that they will have to pay hot water and electricity for the group staying at the school. Councilor Remillard voiced support for the program saying that there is no doubt there is need.
Assistant Comptroller
Betty Domino reported that the Finance Department has been cutting and is down to a Comptroller, Assistant Comptroller and four clerks. She explained the duties and assignments of the Finance Department staff noting that every dollar that comes to the city and leaves the city goes through the department. The positions are needed and if the department is cut, it slows the process. She added that there are 22 weeks of vacation among the staff making it half of the year that they are down one person.
Mayor Grenier commented that most businesses pay every other week. He added that no one wants to lay off and the easiest way to bring costs in line is through attrition. He also suggested going to a part time position which he estimated would save $40,000 per year. Mayor Grenier noted that, in a conversation with the previous comptroller, he was convinced that an assistant comptroller is very important to the operations of the city.
Councilor McCue voiced that going forward, the difficulties of a lot of vacation in the department is something to think about; it cannot shut down the department. Councilor Remillard stated that there is no denying the need but the work can be delegated to others and there is a need to cut a position while it is vacant. The best option is to eliminate and delegate and train others to do the work. These are tough decisions but it is the reality of the situation.
Councilor Poulin agreed with doing payroll every two weeks. He went on to say that it would be in the City’s best interest to look at the technology in the finance department and he would defer to advice from an expert. He suggested cross training and doing what is necessary to get by.
Mr. MacQueen said that he does not disagree with any of the things said here. His major concern is that this is the whole financial operation of the city. If there is any place not to skimp this would be it; it is not the place to experiment. Short of having a plan in hand, he said he would cut in Public Works first. Councilor McCue commented that City Hall is the one point of contact that citizens have and he said he would hate to see people come and not be able to do business.
Councilor Poulin reasoned that the City Finance Department is not going to go rogue if one position is cut; there are safety nets. Councilor Remillard commented that some communities have a four day work week with City offices closed to the public on the fifth day. Mayor Grenier acknowledged a consensus from the Council that the City Manager and Comptroller are asked to make a recommendation for remedy in the Finance Department.
Councilor Poulin moved to have the City Manager get quotes on a technology consultant who could offer pricing on technology recommendations; Councilor Remillard seconded and the motion carried.
Capital Improvements
Mr. MacQueen reported that the Planning Board has endorsed the Capital Improvement Plan and he requested that the City Council endorse it as well. He added that it is as important as setting goals for the next budget. Goals last year were: no increase in the tax rate; capital spending at 8.6%; and ufb of 5%. He asked for guidance so that department heads will know in advance what is expected. He noted that the Capital Program is for planning for perceived capital needs; in practice, it gets cut out from the budget.
Mayor Grenier said that he has no problem with having these capital items in the Manager’s proposed budget. It is up to the Council to decide which ones survive. He added that $2 million is high for ufb. He stated that taxes have to be flat; $500,000 will have to be made up for the schools. In prior councils, capital was funded without going into debt. He went on to say that he does not mind when the City Manager proposes a needs budget and then it becomes the Council’s responsibility to make the cuts. Mr. MacQueen voiced that the department heads can best make decisions on how to cut and keep a level of service.
Councilor Evans noted that if the body fails to adopt a budget then it is the city manager’s budget that gets adopted. If the Council gives the direction to start low, then any additions to the budget need to be adopted by 2/3 majority. Councilor McCue clarified that the published budget becomes the working budget for the City if the Council does not adopt a budget ten days prior to the end of the fiscal year.
Consensus was to keep a flat budget and ufb would remain the same.
White Mountain Community College
Mr. MacQueen reported that the Recreation Department had segregated funds to make improvements to the Community College field which is used by our athletic teams for practice. The project was done without going out to bid. There is now an overrun in the cost of the project and the department is doing its best to absorb the additional cost.
Councilor Landry brought up that the City has beautiful fields in Gaydo Field and Memorial Field that are underutilized. We’ve now wasted $37,000 on this practice field; he questioned why we don’t utilize what we have. Mr. MacQueen accepted responsibility for not bidding the project. Councilor Poulin said he would not go along with waiving any bid process. Councilor Landry stated that the Annex Field is in poor condition as well and just as dangerous. He moved to meet with Laura Viger to review the schedules of the fields and subsequently withdrew his motion.
Councilor McCue moved to waive the bidding process in this particular case. Councilor Remillard seconded and the motion failed with Councilors McCue, Remillard and Mayor Grenier voting for the motion and the remaining Councilors voting against. Councilor Landry confirmed that the bill will still be paid.
Councilor Landry moved to ask Laura Viger to come to a meeting to discuss field use and maintenance; Councilor Remillard seconded and the motion carried.
Other
Councilor Poulin asked about people moving to Berlin with seniors in high school who cannot transfer because of credits. Ms. Cascadden explained that the number of credits to receive a diploma varies from school to school and every effort is made to accommodate a graduating senior. If a senior comes in the middle of their senior year and has credits missing, it is difficult to make them up in the short time available.
Councilor Remillard reported that she’s had someone visit the schools and the teacher indicated that they would hate to see the class size increase any more. The teacher recommended finding a school with smaller class sizes. Mayor Grenier voiced that funding education is a commitment and we may have pay for it. Councilor Rozek indicated that he is concerned about level funding and he felt there should be a backup plan so the school does not get shredded.
Councilor Rozek asked if a letter should be sent to the Federal government about the opening of the Federal prison. He worried that prisons sit idle until funded for operation. Mr. MacQueen indicated that the sewer work is not completed and it can’t open until that work is done. The State will have to approve the sewer connection and when we remove I & I we will seek to gain that capacity as well.
Mr. MacQueen noted that the 12th Street Bridge will reopen Monday, November 15th at 9:00 a.m. on the east side with a ribbon cutting ceremony.
Non-Public Session
Councilor Remillard moved with a second from Councilor Poulin to go into non-public session per RSA 91-A:3 II (d) Consideration of the acquisition, sale or lease of real or personal property which, if discussed in public, would likely benefit a party or parties whose interests are adverse to those of the general community. So moved, the motion carried.
Councilor Remillard moved to come out of non-public session; Councilor McCue seconded and the motion carried unanimously by roll call.
Councilor Remillard moved to seal the minutes until the next agenda; Councilor Rozek seconded and the motion carried unanimously by roll call.
Councilor Landry moved to adjourn; Councilor Poulin seconded and the motion carried. The meeting ended at 9:35 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Susan Tremblay
Administrative Assistant
November 8, 2010
Work Session
Present were: Mayor Grenier, Councilors Landry, Remillard, McCue, Evans, Rozek, Poulin; absent were Councilors Cayer and Danderson
Others Present: Charlie Cotton, Margo Sullivan, Fran Cusson, Senator John Gallus, newly elected Representatives Marc Tremblay, Gary Coulombe; Corrine Cascadden, Betty Domino, Patrick MacQueen, media and public
Northern Human Services – Charlie Cotton
Mr. Cotton reported that his program has worked to keep down the need for psychiatric hospitalization dramatically. Northern Human Services has implemented a program for infant mental health to help parents of young children. They have parenting programs and there has been grant funding for equipment and remote psychiatric assessments. Without these programs, child psychiatric services would be 2.5 to 3 hours away. Mayor Grenier confirmed that NHS employs 120 to 125 locally full time benefited positions and there are a few more part time. In closing Mr. Cotton commended the Berlin PD and HD for dealing with people with mental issues.
AV Home Care – Margo Sullivan, Fran Cusson
Ms. Sullivan commented that the city has been a source of funding for AV Home Care for many years and she emphasized that they need every cent. Their program is a supplement to Title 20 that helps the elderly stay in their homes and avoids nursing home care. This service offers homemaker personal care, errands, and bath care. They ask for marginal co-pay per week. Ms. Cusson added that the program serves 80-100 clients and on a sliding fee scale and most are not able to pay because the cost of their medical care is so high. AV Home Care employs 76 to 80 employees; 1/3 are full time and there are 65 part time.
Mayor Grenier asked if any revenue is drawn from Medicaid Ms. Sullivan explained that they are not a Medicare certified agency. Mayor Grenier confirmed that in last 5 years the agency’s revenue stream has stayed the same; however costs continue to go up. Mayor Grenier established to the State elected officials present that they will begin difficult budget discussions and it’s important to hear the pleas from these agencies. Councilor Remillard affirmed with Ms. Sullivan that the difference between AV Home Care and the other service on Main Street is mainly that the other agency is for profit and not mission driven. They offer full nursing services rather than the supplemental services of AV Home Care.
Councilor Poulin commented that the City is blessed to have this program. This service is essential for people who don’t have family in the area and it is what keeps people in their homes. Ms. Sullivan concluded by saying that they are not the “jazzy” organization but they are important for keeping the elderly from institutionalization.
Senator Gallus & Representatives
Mayor Grenier welcomed Senator Gallus, new elected Representatives Marc Tremblay, and Gary Coulombe to the Council meeting. Senator Gallus was not sure if he was going to be on the Senate Finance Committee this year. He warned of a State budget crisis that will not make anyone happy. There is $ 500 million of stimulus money that was added to the State budget last year that will not be funded. There are issues with Health & Human Services, Medicare and Medicaid money that the Federal government is looking for. He stated that he would hate to have to cut from programs that need to be paid for by cities and counties. Without a giant influx of new revenue to get the budget on track, decisions may need to be made that will affect programs. There is $7 billion needed to secure the pension system
long term.
A lot of the expense is being passed on to States by the Feds and they, in turn, pass to cities and counties. The Senator wanted to keep services whole and not reach into the pockets of cities.
Mayor Grenier questioned a proposal by Senator Bradley that would delay the start of the school aid formula which would freeze the current amounts so that towns would not see an increase or decrease. This would be in Berlin’s best interest. Councilor Rozek expressed concern over educational funding. He said that Berlin's education system is an oasis in the North Country where we are disconnected from others; however the City provides tremendous public education. Our school is very unique in that one would have to go the other end of the state to match programs that are here. He stressed that he is interested in being kept in the loop as legislation on school funding progresses. It is important that the city be proactive and send letters of support when needed.
Mayor Grenier noted that it is important that the City is aware of any piece of legislation that may have an effect on Berlin with unintended consequences. He added that he is available to testify. Councilor McCue thanked the delegation members for coming to the meeting and for their service. He addressed the new representatives asking them to be aware of the impact of their actions on cities and towns with the potential of downshifting costs. Positions in the Legislature are important and as important is the role of the county delegation and working with the County commissioners.
Mayor Grenier commented that the Association of Counties will go over responsibilities and statutory requirements and he recommended that the new legislators take part. Mr. MacQueen made the point that the State grants pollution exemptions to industries that are regulated and mandated to have pollution control equipment and the City has been opposed to these pollution exemptions and has supported eliminating the exemptions.
Senator Gallus stated that if there is a need for legislation, the delegation can help with that. Mayor Grenier thanked all for coming and noted that the City Manager has an open door policy and if there is a chance of an adverse effect on the city to let him know. He thanked them for making the commitment to serve.
Update on School Department
Corinne Cascadden reported that there are 37 out of district placements in the school system with $662,728 in tuition costs anticipated which is more than budgeted; however the population using these services is fluid and it is possible that by March or April, either she will have to come to the City for additional funds or the situation will have worked itself out.
Ms. Cascadden explained that she's been asked about statistical trends and has put together an analysis of students over the past 5 years. It's been said that the City is taxed by the population change in the city and when the numbers were put together, it was found that students eligible for free and reduced lunch in Berlin was 38% in 2005/06 and is now 48% in 2010/11. In relation to other communities' school districts, a random sampling of the same population ranged from 24% to 43%. Special education was 11 to 19% for other communities and the State average is 15.4%; however Berlin's average is 24% in 2010/11.
The statistics validate that the needs are huge. Ms. Cascadden established that State aid to education is expected to be cut by $500,000 and there is $476,000 of ARRA funds for salaries that will not be there next year. This will create a huge gap in the budget. The School Department has 19 less employees than last year.
Work Camp New England
On the "good news" side, Ms. Cascadden reported that there is an exciting program based out of Litchfield NH called Work Camp New England. They have students who tuition to come and take over a school; they sleep on cots in classrooms, shower in the gym showers, and eat in the cafeteria. The students offer community service free of charge to residents and will work on home projects such as painting, yard work, building handicap ramps, roofs etc. There are 200 students who will come in July and there are at least 800 homes that meet the requirements for the project. Ms. Cascadden noted that she called other communities who have hosted the group and they are eager to have them back.
Councilor Rozek confirmed that there is not work in the school for this group to do. Councilor Landry asked if this will take away work from local contractors. Andre Caron replied that the people being helped cannot afford to pay for service and upkeep to their homes. The Neighborhood Revitalization Program ran out of funds before getting to any of the work to be done on aesthetics.
Councilor McCue asked if there are costs to the district and Ms Cascadden confirmed that they will have to pay hot water and electricity for the group staying at the school. Councilor Remillard voiced support for the program saying that there is no doubt there is need.
Assistant Comptroller
Betty Domino reported that the Finance Department has been cutting and is down to a Comptroller, Assistant Comptroller and four clerks. She explained the duties and assignments of the Finance Department staff noting that every dollar that comes to the city and leaves the city goes through the department. The positions are needed and if the department is cut, it slows the process. She added that there are 22 weeks of vacation among the staff making it half of the year that they are down one person.
Mayor Grenier commented that most businesses pay every other week. He added that no one wants to lay off and the easiest way to bring costs in line is through attrition. He also suggested going to a part time position which he estimated would save $40,000 per year. Mayor Grenier noted that, in a conversation with the previous comptroller, he was convinced that an assistant comptroller is very important to the operations of the city.
Councilor McCue voiced that going forward, the difficulties of a lot of vacation in the department is something to think about; it cannot shut down the department. Councilor Remillard stated that there is no denying the need but the work can be delegated to others and there is a need to cut a position while it is vacant. The best option is to eliminate and delegate and train others to do the work. These are tough decisions but it is the reality of the situation.
Councilor Poulin agreed with doing payroll every two weeks. He went on to say that it would be in the City’s best interest to look at the technology in the finance department and he would defer to advice from an expert. He suggested cross training and doing what is necessary to get by.
Mr. MacQueen said that he does not disagree with any of the things said here. His major concern is that this is the whole financial operation of the city. If there is any place not to skimp this would be it; it is not the place to experiment. Short of having a plan in hand, he said he would cut in Public Works first. Councilor McCue commented that City Hall is the one point of contact that citizens have and he said he would hate to see people come and not be able to do business.
Councilor Poulin reasoned that the City Finance Department is not going to go rogue if one position is cut; there are safety nets. Councilor Remillard commented that some communities have a four day work week with City offices closed to the public on the fifth day. Mayor Grenier acknowledged a consensus from the Council that the City Manager and Comptroller are asked to make a recommendation for remedy in the Finance Department.
Councilor Poulin moved to have the City Manager get quotes on a technology consultant who could offer pricing on technology recommendations; Councilor Remillard seconded and the motion carried.
Capital Improvements
Mr. MacQueen reported that the Planning Board has endorsed the Capital Improvement Plan and he requested that the City Council endorse it as well. He added that it is as important as setting goals for the next budget. Goals last year were: no increase in the tax rate; capital spending at 8.6%; and ufb of 5%. He asked for guidance so that department heads will know in advance what is expected. He noted that the Capital Program is for planning for perceived capital needs; in practice, it gets cut out from the budget.
Mayor Grenier said that he has no problem with having these capital items in the Manager’s proposed budget. It is up to the Council to decide which ones survive. He added that $2 million is high for ufb. He stated that taxes have to be flat; $500,000 will have to be made up for the schools. In prior councils, capital was funded without going into debt. He went on to say that he does not mind when the City Manager proposes a needs budget and then it becomes the Council’s responsibility to make the cuts. Mr. MacQueen voiced that the department heads can best make decisions on how to cut and keep a level of service.
Councilor Evans noted that if the body fails to adopt a budget then it is the city manager’s budget that gets adopted. If the Council gives the direction to start low, then any additions to the budget need to be adopted by 2/3 majority. Councilor McCue clarified that the published budget becomes the working budget for the City if the Council does not adopt a budget ten days prior to the end of the fiscal year.
Consensus was to keep a flat budget and ufb would remain the same.
White Mountain Community College
Mr. MacQueen reported that the Recreation Department had segregated funds to make improvements to the Community College field which is used by our athletic teams for practice. The project was done without going out to bid. There is now an overrun in the cost of the project and the department is doing its best to absorb the additional cost.
Councilor Landry brought up that the City has beautiful fields in Gaydo Field and Memorial Field that are underutilized. We’ve now wasted $37,000 on this practice field; he questioned why we don’t utilize what we have. Mr. MacQueen accepted responsibility for not bidding the project. Councilor Poulin said he would not go along with waiving any bid process. Councilor Landry stated that the Annex Field is in poor condition as well and just as dangerous. He moved to meet with Laura Viger to review the schedules of the fields and subsequently withdrew his motion.
Councilor McCue moved to waive the bidding process in this particular case. Councilor Remillard seconded and the motion failed with Councilors McCue, Remillard and Mayor Grenier voting for the motion and the remaining Councilors voting against. Councilor Landry confirmed that the bill will still be paid.
Councilor Landry moved to ask Laura Viger to come to a meeting to discuss field use and maintenance; Councilor Remillard seconded and the motion carried.
Other
Councilor Poulin asked about people moving to Berlin with seniors in high school who cannot transfer because of credits. Ms. Cascadden explained that the number of credits to receive a diploma varies from school to school and every effort is made to accommodate a graduating senior. If a senior comes in the middle of their senior year and has credits missing, it is difficult to make them up in the short time available.
Councilor Remillard reported that she’s had someone visit the schools and the teacher indicated that they would hate to see the class size increase any more. The teacher recommended finding a school with smaller class sizes. Mayor Grenier voiced that funding education is a commitment and we may have pay for it. Councilor Rozek indicated that he is concerned about level funding and he felt there should be a backup plan so the school does not get shredded.
Councilor Rozek asked if a letter should be sent to the Federal government about the opening of the Federal prison. He worried that prisons sit idle until funded for operation. Mr. MacQueen indicated that the sewer work is not completed and it can’t open until that work is done. The State will have to approve the sewer connection and when we remove I & I we will seek to gain that capacity as well.
Mr. MacQueen noted that the 12th Street Bridge will reopen Monday, November 15th at 9:00 a.m. on the east side with a ribbon cutting ceremony.
Non-Public Session
Councilor Remillard moved with a second from Councilor Poulin to go into non-public session per RSA 91-A:3 II (d) Consideration of the acquisition, sale or lease of real or personal property which, if discussed in public, would likely benefit a party or parties whose interests are adverse to those of the general community. So moved, the motion carried.
Councilor Remillard moved to come out of non-public session; Councilor McCue seconded and the motion carried unanimously by roll call.
Councilor Remillard moved to seal the minutes until the next agenda; Councilor Rozek seconded and the motion carried unanimously by roll call.
Councilor Landry moved to adjourn; Councilor Poulin seconded and the motion carried. The meeting ended at 9:35 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Susan Tremblay
Administrative Assistant
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