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CITY OF AUBURN ELECTRIC BOARD MEETING
January 9, 2002 at 7:00 pm
Attendants: Jim Salva, Dave Klimek, Kenneth Lumb, Jim Moore, Dorothy Blair and
Nancy Quill
First Item: Applicant Interview
Moore I think we have all pretty much looked at Mr. Pompo
Salva We looked at this last month.
Moore Was that notarized?
Blair Yes.
Salva It is a two hour timed test and we
Moore No. Like I say, we
Pompo Yeah, well my conversations were really, I guess unfortunately to a certain degree, with Frank DeOrio. I had anticipated communication between you guys and myself and you
Moore Frank has nothing to do with this board.
Pompo Yeah, I understand, but every bit of my communication has been through him. So, I apologize for that.
Salva Well, that
Pompo I did have a question. I see a gentleman out there with the older NEC book…
Salva This test is not based on the 2002 book.
Pompo Well, that
Salva I don
Pompo OK.
Salva So, if you want to use the 2002 book that
Pompo Can you tell me a little bit about what the test is comprised of?
Salva It
Pompo OK.
Salva A passing grade is 75 and it is a two-hour test.
Moore OK?
Salva We
Second Item: Applicant Interview
Moore This is Tom Brady. He is from Buffalo and he has a master license in some other cities and he would like to get one here in Auburn.
Salva OK.
Moore He wants to do a job down on North St. at Alzeheimer
Lumb Is that what
Moore Yeah. They have one eye doctor in there, now they are going to do the building out in back. What other cities do you have your license in?
Brady Lackawanna, Town of Tonawanda and Buffalo.
Salva I didn
Brady Lackawanna has had it for quite a while. Tonawanda adapted that about 3, 4 maybe 5 years ago.
Lumb Are you the owner of the company?
Brady Yes, I am. You can have the handbook in here?
Salva Yes. We
Brady I have the handbook in my vehicle outside.
Salva You are welcome to get it, we
Brady OK.
Moore Is that notarized?
Blair Yes.
Brady What is the difference between a Master, Journeyman or a Special…whatever that third one was?
Salva Special Limited is a residential Appliance Installer. If you are a plumber installing dishwashers, hot water tanks, you can wire what you install residentially.
Brady OK.
Salva Limited is residential up to four units, up to five meters, up to three stories. Master is equivalent to a Journeyman. Master is the owner.
Brady OK.
Moore Well, we
Brady Thank you.
End of Interviews
Moore We
Quill Is the test fee correct?
Salva No. It is now $25.00 for all applicants.
Quill Can we change the title of Special Limited to Appliance Installer?
Moore Yes. That
Quill Does it have to be called “Special Limited”?
Moore Isn
Quill Yes, but the license prints out “Special Limited”.
Salva It is in the ordinance as Appliance Installer.
Quill So the title of “Special Limited” will be changed to “Appliance Installer” in all regards.
Salva Yeah, and actually I should change the heading on the test. We need to omit this, “any reference material”. We allow a National Code Book, a National Code Handbook, a standard calculator and scrap paper.
Moore This is what is handed out with every test. I would like to go through this also.
Lumb Look here at section 1, this isn
Moore We have to correct that.
Lumb The second Wednesday of each month at 4:00 pm, except the months of December, January, May and June, when the time is 7:00 pm for the purpose of interviews.
Klimek Why don
Moore Well, no…this is why we are going through this. We have to get what
Quill How do you want that worded?
Lumb Applications for exams will be accepted only in December and May, right? With the exams given only in January and June.
Moore Ok, that
Salva Look at the one above. Applications for examinations, that was last month…
Klimek If this is going to be scrutinized that much, why don
Moore We don
Salva We
Moore We are a legal board and we can make these laws and they have got to follow it. Now we put it “the interview for the examination shall be made before the board on the month proceeding the test”. It has to be very explicit.
Lumb If I was explicit, I would say, not the month before the test, but December and May. Spell it out right there, so there is no misunderstanding.
Moore In the code, the city manager can give a test any time he wants. We almost had a special meeting last month for an interview and the test in one night. This is why…this is the whole thing.
Lumb How did that get in the code?
Moore I don
Quill In section 3, it says “during the examination of applicants for certificates”. Should it say “at the interview of applicants for examinations”?
Moore Yeah. Applicant shall be present at the interview for examination for an electric license…
Klimek It might be easier if you come up with a rough draft and then let us beat it up.
Moore I know, but I also wanted your input right now because she is going to type it up, then we will have something to work with.
Salva Looks like everybody has showed up.
Moore OK. What time do you have, 5:54?
Salva Perfect.
Moore (Leaves to administer exam and returns to meeting) Back to section 3.
Lumb I still think it would be easier to say during the months of December and May, in black and white.
Moore OK. I
Klimek It would be easier to say that and at the bottom put a footnote about the interview.
Lumb You shall be interviewed in person in December and May if you want to take the test.
Moore Applicant shall be present at the interview for examination for an electric license on the second Wednesday of May and December at 7pm at City Hall. It needs to be exact. Section 4. Applications need to be notarized and presented at time of interview.
Salva Good.
Moore Accompanied by an application fee of $25.00 in check or money order.
Salva Non-refundable. That is in the ordinance.
Moore OK. The next section 5.
Quill Can I take all these “examination” terms and change them to “exam”?
Moore Yeah.
Lumb Under qualifications we need to put in there specifically that a passing grade of 75 is required.
Moore It wouldn
Quill This is one long sentence. I
Moore OK. I think all the rest of this stuff is OK.
Lumb How do we prove that, this statement where one year of work equals 2000 hours?
Moore Well a lot of times, they
Lumb You could go with people like that, but you won
Moore Yeah, I know but it
Salva Let
Moore OK. Put that in section 4.
Quill In section 6, should it read the “application must be signed” and remove “accompanied by a Certificate”?
Salva The application must be signed.
Moore OK. Here is the application. All this here needs to be changed according to our revisions on these rules of procedures.
Quill Let me go through and make all the changes and we
Moore Yeah, we can do that.
Salva We have to notify the city manager within 30 days. It should say something about how long they have to get the license. Should that be 30 days too?
Moore Lets give them 90 days.
Klimek We have to give them some time to shop for insurance and everything else.
Lumb Yeah. Let
Salva OK. 45 days sounds reasonable?
Moore All right, I think that
Salva Nancy on number ten, see where it says, for the period of six months? Get rid of that and say until the next regularly scheduled exam.
Lumb Yeah, that
Moore You know I let them know, that they should be paying this board again. Like they used to till Malone took it away. Did you talk to anybody about a reciprocal down in Ithaca?
Lumb Joe has not gotten back to me. I have talked to him about.
Moore How about we send him a letter from this board. I like to send one to Oswego too. I know the Code Enforcement Officer there and I gave him a copy our thing and he was going to present it to their electric board, but I haven
Quill Do you want to draft a standard letter to send out.
Moore Yes. Joe Pelligrino, City of Ithaca. Neil Smith, City of Oswego. I
Salva We have been trying to do that for a long time and they never respond, but we can try them again. I
Moore I
Salva No.
+end of meeting
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